who cares about climate change

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[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I have not spent enough time taking evidence from both sides of the argument to really form a stance on the issue. I suspect that most have not even considered doing so

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The stance is pretty obvious: climate change is real and we should do something about it.

The only talking points should be: what should we do about it? Should we force people to do certain things because of climate change? Should we try and change lifestyles of people? Should we regulate companies to adhere to certain standards for climate change?

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Virtually everyone agrees that the climate is changing. Not all agree that humans are causing it. If humans are not causing it, then a hands-off approach seems best.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If humans are not causing it, then a hands-off approach seems best.

If climate change is changing for the better, then hands-off. If it's changing for the worse, then we need to take an approach to it. Just like humans take care of species near extinction so other species don't annihilate them.

By the way, I do think we are causing climate change. Just look at the numbers starting with the industrial revolution.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Which numbers? Should we consider how those numbers were gathered?

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think Earth's temperature is a good metric

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Should we consider how the numbers were gathered?

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think you're picking on the details lol

The general idea is: the planet is or will die if there isn't counter action made by society in general. The point of discussions should be what we are willing to compromise on and real solutions.

And there is even money in this industry. Mr Beast and Ellon Musk (with tesla) are people I know made a ton of money by making eco-friendly products.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm being intellectually honest

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nah you're dragging the discussion in points that shouldn't be dragged on.

If this was say covid or the lockdowns and you wanted to discuss details that would be more understandable, as the narrative isn't set in stone.

"Climate change" or "planet is dying" is something that is happening and there is no arguing about it. Like I said, the best thing to discuss would be what we should do about it, or if we even should do something about it. Where on our lifestyles we would be willing to compromise on etc.