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[–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Orwell got it right on the all encompassing desire of power for powers sake as the true betrayer of the revolution and why all communist experiments ultimately fail.

I think Americans especially though, and they can hardly he blamed to the rampant anti-communist propaganda being spread since the 1950's, tend to do what the propoganda is designed to do and have instant knee jerk thought free reactions towards simply the word itself without really taking the time to understand what the ideology of communism is or why it has failed. It's just commies un-good, our state double plus good.

Communism has always attracted a bunch of kooks and weirdos that have no bearing on reality so it tends to collapse into sheer idiocy whenever someone tries to organize it, it's the problem with having a simple overarching ideological answer for all of life's problems. What is the essence of class struggle? Why it's the oppression of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie comrade. Just replace the terms with whatever up down power dynamic you want to go with, us vs them, divide et impera. Revolutionaries love it as it destabilizes power dynamics and gives them an in to establish their own new power dynamic with themselves at the top! No one is going to willingly give up the seat of power once obtained no matter how good their intentions are going in. The ring is mine! It came to me! I found it! It's rightfully mine! But we can always convince some poor overworked and exploited bumpkin that I actually care about him and they'll toss in what they will, what have they got to lose under capitalism or communism? To him both are shit. Ideological platitudes don't put food in your belly.

It is of course a mistake to simply discard learning about Marx and his teachings and giving credit where credit is due. He was right at his basic explanation of the power structure of his society at the time, albeit the explanation is overly simplistic. He was right that the power shift away from the nobility into a new ruling class of capitalists along with the industrial revolution changing the world from a primarily agrarian to manufacturing base was destabilizing communities and causing a great deal of suffering as workers unable to navigate this new world well were getting exploited. And he was certainly right about the use of religion by the state to keep the proles in line as well. As well as the astute observation that ultimately philosophy and patriotism are subservient to the more pressing need of actual material benefits, in other words a starving man will sing whatever song the soup monger wants him to sing.

But ultimately this whole idea of the ultimate revolution of the proletariat and all that utopian garbage that comes with it is his failing, Marx does what everyone today does, easily points out the problems with society, makes a simple yet incomplete and shortsighted guess as to why that is, then proves utterly retarded at providing solutions to fix the problem that won't bork up the world more. I mean my god the dictatorship of the proletariat? You fucking retarded? Look at every ideological revolution throughout history? It's ok guys you can trust me with absolute dictatorial power I promise to use it for good! Let's start with killing those terrorists who said I wouldn't use my power for good!

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I am glad to see somebody actually understands Marx and these economic issues

Marx does what everyone today does, easily points out the problems with society, makes a simple yet incomplete and shortsighted guess as to why that is, then proves utterly retarded at providing solutions

This is a distinction I wish more people were able to make. His critiques were largely on the money, his solutions not so much