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[–]Anman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You've got it wrong. It's all about perspective and mind games. 4 reviews on GOOGLE is what people see. Not 4 PEOPLE on google. If google says it's true, it must be true.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I tend to read the reviews and see if they say anything substantive. Usually it's some bullshit like, I ordered spicy food, and it was too spicy. Or they didn't cook my sushi enough. Or they didn't treat me like royalty and have my order ready before I ordered it.

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So, you read the 1 star reviews, specifically. Which is what I do. But most people don't. I got a good one at a barber once. 1 star from a woman because they wouldn't cut her hair.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Consider when staying at a cheap hotel in

5 stars was awesome would do again.

You liked it but doesn't tell me anything.

1 star there was no room service and it's a 10 minute walk from the subway station.

You've told me you've got nothing else to complain about except for your cheap hotel except that it isn't luxurious (duh it's cheap) and that it's not literally right smack on the subway. Well, neither of those things are problems for me.

People are more likely to write negative reviews than positive ones. If they can't find anything substantive to complain about or if their complaints are just stupid, it's usually a good sign that the place isn't horrible.

You won't be getting the Ritz Carlton but if that's not what you are looking for who the fuck cares.

[–]aaarrgh[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

google replaced the Bible

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

People have been afraid of vaccines since it was realised that cowpox infection protected against smallpox.

And they confuse correlation with causation, and are over-influenced by particular anecdotes, and under-influenced by the big picture numbers.

Vaccines save lives. That's why you get them for yourself and your kids.

[–]chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I smoked my vaccine in a weed bong.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It's all numbers in the end. New vaccine probably has a higher risk than a tested vaccine. These new MRNA vaccines do have as of yet unknown complications that can arise. Are they safe? In a manner of speaking. Did they save lives compared to a virus with a very low fatality rate? Maybe. But it's debatable. Were the fears overplayed and the vaccines pushed to the benefit of corporate profits? Almost certainly.

The problem is like with most things. The reasonable voices on both sides get drowned out by the shrieking of idiots. Say something critical of vaccines, the hardline corporate shills are happy to lump you in with the spiritualist faith healers and other crazies that think it has a 100% fatality rate. And their mirror image the "er my gahd unvaccinated people are gonna kill me make em get it" will go around attacking anyone.

It's all playing off of people's anxiety. My god the futility of man to go to such great lengths and pain to try to avoid the inevitable. You will die. Nothing you can do will prevent that.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Did they save lives compared to a virus with a very low fatality rate? Maybe. But it's debatable.

It's not very debatable. All cause mortality is about a third in vaccinated compared to unvaccinated.

Were the fears overplayed and the vaccines pushed to the benefit of corporate profits? Almost certainly.

There's possibly a survivorship bias. Those who died of CoVID aren't hear to discuss how deadly the infection is. But there's 6.57 million of them.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I'm sorry the survivorship bias argument is retarded. It can be used for literally anything. There's a possibility that those who died from the vaccinations can't talk about how deadly the vaccinations are is an equally retarded argument for their efficacy.

Water is inherently dangerous. We don't talk about survivorship bias in terms of going for a swim despite the very real risk of drowning. We also don't treat a six inch kiddy pool with the same level of urgency as the fucking ocean despite it being perfectly possible to drown in either.

Survivorship bias really trends more towards making relatively safe things seem more dangerous than they actually are because of the risk of catastrophic failure or due to high levels of publicity. You'll find people who are willing to talk about their horrible experience, but is that experience statistically significant? It's like all the people that won't fly after hearing airline horror stories. Or the people that freak the fuck out over radiation fears and refuse to use a microwave over but they then have no issues sunbathing or smoking.

There's millions dead due to COVID infections world wide, out of a population of billions. It's sad but it's not very concerning when we ultimately consider that most of them were either old, extremely fat, or super unhealthy to begin with. When your system is strained already it doesn't take much to push you over the edge. Can't fight against the inevitable end of death. But society needs to stop and the economy needs to be thrown in the toilet and you need to sacrifice your life so that grandma in the nursing home can live out an arthritic dimensia riddled existence for another few years before she inevitably dies from something as simple as rolling out of bed by accident or slipping on the stairs. That is the unfortunate reality of life, and it's a hard sell.

But there's so many millions of people who are of the mindset that they'll do anything pay any price for even the smallest of immaterial hope. We call these people morons. And they're inevitably taken advantage of. It's cold to reduce people's personal relationships down to economics but look at it with a pet. Is it worth giving all your money to make sure Fido can live uncomfortably with expensive medications and regular kidney dialysis or what not. Or is it worth just letting nature take it's course and let the dog go out the way god intended, as dinner?

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

entire bullshit

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Go pluck yourself.

[–]chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'm sorry the survivorship bias argument is retarded. It can be used for literally anything.

I don't think that fears were "overplayed". There's millions of dead people, even though the global response was unprecedented.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ten's of millions of people die every year. Pandemic or no pandemic. Due to the pandemic more people than normal died, it's not a good thing, shouldn't be ignored, but the fears are overplayed, the effects are that unhealthy people who were likely to die anyway, die a bit sooner. Looking at the worldwide death rate is rises steadily as the population increases. And you see the ocaisional spike when there is a particularly nasty strain of flu or for that matter corona virus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747626/

Nobody talks about the 1958 pandemic. Even though the spike in deaths was about the same as covid. The global response was not only unprecedented, it was unwarranted, and likely to exasperate the deaths with the resultant economic fallout. How many elderly Europeans will freeze to death? How many people will kill themselves due to their economic situation? We don't know. We never will have clear numbers on these things. We'll never be able to accurately determine the causation.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ten's of millions of people die every year. Pandemic or no pandemic.

Right. But dying en mass of an infection, such that ICUs were full, and hospital staff had to make calls on who to try to save, isn't 80 or 90 years olds dropping off at the normal rate.

the effects are that unhealthy people who were likely to die anyway, die a bit sooner.

And healthy people die a lot sooner.

Nobody talks about the 1958 pandemic.

Well it was before my time.

The global response was not only unprecedented, it was unwarranted,

Cheap claim, but i notice that you're alive. It would be less cheap for those that died or lost loved ones.

How many elderly Europeans will freeze to death? How many people will kill themselves due to their economic situation? We don't know.

If you don't know, what do you base your claim that the response was unwarranted on?

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The consequences of the covid response will reverberate for years if not decades. The full scale of the consequences will never be known.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The consequences of CoVID will too.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The consequences of COVID are the consequences of the lockdowns.

[–]chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The vax is many times more deadly than catching the flu.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Really. How many times?

The studies I've read are all like this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9319484/

Where the risk of all cause mortality is lower for vaccinated groups.

In some countries such as the US, the raw data shows the same information: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages vaccinated people are dying from all causes at about 11 times the rate of the fully vaxed and boosted.

So I very much question these stats of yours.

[–]chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My ex-wife(in her mid fifties) was very healthy.. she was able to go do yoga.. but immediately after getting vaxxed, she developed severe diabetes and neuropathy.. she can barely walk and can barely see..

I listened to two females(early thirties) talk about how after getting vaxxed, they got blood clots and aneurysm.

I do not need to see any reports.

I do not need to have that fact checked.

Thanks a fucking lot for disabling my ex, you mother fuckers.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My ex-wife(in her mid fifties) was very healthy.. she was able to go do yoga.. but immediately after getting vaxxed, she developed severe diabetes and neuropathy.. she can barely walk and can barely see..

Diabetes isn't caused by the vaccination. If you are diabetic, you have to be careful of your blood sugar levels after your vaccination, as the body releases glucose into the blood to power the immune response.