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[–]madcow-5 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm an adult who's lived through American politics for the last 30 years.

Your comments lately have been really low tier. You're not fooling anybody by posting the opposite of reality.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of all the people I've met on Saidit, madcow, it seems you consistently want to focus on the exact opposite of reality. It must be difficult to have a normal conversation with people who are not on Saidit or people who do not agree with you. (I am not saying this to be mean. It's an observation. I'll soon stop posting on Saidit. It's been interesting to see these kinds of posts from you, and it's also sad and some others on Saidit are so completely brainwashed by the right-wing lies. For some on Saidit, there is some middle-ground between their views and mine, even if I argue with these people. In your case, there is no real dialogue, mainly because you never have reliable evidence to support arguments about this alternate universe where left-wing people somehow hate science and the truth. You obviously refuse to believe what's really happening. It probably won't end well.)

[–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You were literally just asked what you were referring to by "the evils of science", and refused to explain.

I didn't attack you, I asked you to explain what you were referring to, and you refused.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A good example is climate change. Ever since it became a major political issue in the 90s, the attacks on the science have usually come from the right. Even long after the evidence in favor of it had become overwhelming, you had people on the right denouncing it as some hippie conspiracy.

It is true that there are rich people trying to capitalize on it by lobbying for subsidies, funding for technologies that aren't cost efficient or that have limited scale, etc. It's also true that you have people on the left fighting against good solutions like nuclear because of hysteria about meltdowns.

Those are legitimate debate topics. However, the basic question of whether the burning of fossil fuels is putting more greenhouse gases into the air and strengthening the greenhouse effect, raising surface temperatures which leads to habitat destruction, loss of arable land, and sea level rise, is pretty well settled at this point.

As I recall, you yourself claimed the science was far from settled not too long ago. You hold this belief not because it's what the scientists are telling you, but because it's what the pundits on the right working for corporations & the rich have been telling you.