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[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

I'm pro choice but fuck any bitch that says I'm keeping it when I'd be willing to pay for an abortion and expects me to pay support. This CHOICE can't be one way and we as men need to start pushing for this change in the rules

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[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

keeping it could be clarified as forcing me to be involved in any way. The next part " I'd be willing to pay for an abortion and expects me to pay support" is where my argument comes in. Yes its a womans body, but its my body as well that you are forcing me to work harder to pay for something I would have easily paid an abortion for instead. Therefore you are telling ME what to do with MY Body.

[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

yes, don't use your body to get anyone pregnant, if you don't want a baby/pay for a baby etc!

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

likewise if a woman doesnt want a baby then she shouldnt get pregnant etc etc.

[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

I'm pro choice but fuck any bitch that says I'm keeping it when I'd be willing to pay for an abortion and expects me to pay support. This CHOICE can't be one way and we as men need to start pushing for this change in the rules

I.e. you as a man want to tell a woman to get an abortion, instead of: don't get anyone pregnant, if you don't want a baby/pay for a baby etc!

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

no I as a man want to offer an abortion, therefore opting myself out of responsibility. If you are pro choice this should be optimal. Therefore if a woman CHOOSES to keep the baby its her responsibility solely. Now if the woman says "dont tell me what to do with my body" both the man and the baby could also have the same argument. The entire pro choice defense is built on one person telling everyone else what they HAVE to do. Its a complete hypocritical lie.

[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

No, you as a man got someone pregnant! It's not up to you to tell a woman to get an abortion! No, if you CHOOSE to impregnate, you are by default responsible for the baby/child! When you impregnate, you have made your CHOICE, i.e. to take on the responsibility of the baby/child.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

its not up to the woman to tell me to pay. what if the condom breaks? then its no ones choice. Also I have no kids.

Now its not up to the woman to decide what to do with anyones body either so no abortions. the woman shouldnt abort she should take responsibility for her actions.

[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

It's all up to you as a man to refrain from getting someone pregnant, condom or not, if you don't want a baby/child.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

It's all up to you as a man to refrain from getting someone pregnant, condom or not, if you don't want a baby/child.

It's all up to you as a woman to refrain from getting pregnant, condom or not, if you don't want a baby/child.