The Real Purpose Of Socialism Is Precisely To Advance Beyond The Predatory Phase Of Human Development - Albert Einstein

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[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't believe that forcing a system onto someone with violence is a bad thing. For example, we must force people to not kill each other, and use violence to do so.

The only justified force is self-defense. The aggressor can be met with potentially lethal force if he threatens you with serious harm. They are not at all the same thing, even though both involve deadly force.

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You're still violently enforcing self-defense.

[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK, I take it you're using violence in a neutral sense to describe force directed at causing bodily injury or death. Absolutely, self-defense is violence. If someone else has decided that it's either you or them, rather than peacefully solving whatever dispute they have, then they're basically asking you if you consider your values of non-aggression more worthy than theirs of aggression, your life over theirs.