It's just a coincidence

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[–]butterferret12 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Hold up, am I missing something? Everything I've seen has said that the pandemic is still very much in progress, even through this.

[–]mr_exx 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah i still have to wear masks/gloves at work, stores still have lines, and the quarantine is still intact.

I think OP meant more that its over in terms of hype.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The peak death rates were all over a month ago... even despite everyone completely ignoring social distancing now.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at the chart "daily deaths" and you see it's just declining and declining. In a week or two we will know for absolutely certain if it was real or if it was completely overexaggerated and misunderstood

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The pandemic of the common cold, just like every year since time immemorial. Yep, that's the one.

[–]butterferret12 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

While you're not technically wrong -- much of the common cold is various strains of corona -- it is far from unheard of for a new strain that we aren't prepared for to be potentially deadly. It was the case with h1n1, and it is much the same case here. It may be easy for you to say that this is just the common cold, but I have seen two aquaintances catch this, one of whom died, and can tell you that this is not your everyday corona.

A good portion of the strains in the common cold are very weak, and can hardly even do so much as to make you realize that you have something.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had it. Sore throat, annoying dry cough. Did feel utterly different from the usual "common cold". Still, the 0.26% mortality rate is in the same ballpark as the aforementioned.

Please tell me of the health status of your acquaintance who died from it, pre-COVID, and how thoroughly certain you are that they died from THAT and not medical, ahem, "error" of using a ventilator or simply putting the wrong thing on the death certificate?

To be clear, I was only comparing this to the common cold to underline how asinine and purposely destructive it was to SHUT DOWN THE WORLD over this.

[–]butterferret12 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The death rate is far closer to 10% than your 0.26.

I am 100% certain that their death was caused by this, but you seem so utterly convinced that I doubt you'd even consider any evidence legitimate. As such, it is no more than a waste of my time to bother any further.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The CDC disagrees with you: https://macdailynews.com/2020/05/26/new-cdc-estimate-puts-covid-19-death-rate-at-0-26/

And it's not like it's politically advantageous for them to admit it was so grossly overestimated in the beginning.

[–]butterferret12 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ , there have been about 400,000 deaths from coronavirus. The NYT article they cited said that they expected closer to 100-200,000 people to die, which means that they far underestimated how many people will die.

This isn't even to mention that your link talks about past projections, not actual numbers. Even if we were to incorporate the 100,000 false deaths they spoke about, that would still be upwards of 7-8%.

As a side note, people dying of pre-existing issues or even negligence as a result of corona are still dying of corona. If they would not have died otherwise, they have died because if corona.

[–]Skuly 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Riots and looting are a funny way too cure the flu.

[–]solarsavior 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Great Awakening continues...

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In the absence of journalism, all that remains is doublethink.

And shills, incoming.

Also, this guy vonyugen is all over r/conspiracy with upvotes, which is at this point only possible if you are a connected propagandist, and his minds.com and book avalon are all about /x/ topics. He "glows" as they say, beware.

Anyone really trying to change things is not operating on amazon, or minds.com, which my analysis discovered is just like steemiit, a site that makes propagandists look like they are real people making money propagandizing, and a honeypot time sink for everyone else.

aaaand promoted by magnora, aaaand the statement is so obvious it almost does not need to be said at all. Saying self evident things is not insightful, it is the opposite of insightful. If we are at the point where stating the obvious is like "whoaaaa", wait until you read something actually novel like my website and books.

decultification.org

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why do you feel the need to attack people like this? We're all contributing in our own way.

Also, this guy vonyugen is all over r/conspiracy with upvotes, which is at this point only possible if you are a connected propagandist, and his minds.com and book avalon are all about /x/ topics. He "glows" as they say, beware.

This is a personal attack. If someone else was saying this, would it suddenly have been acceptable? Information is either useful or not, regardless of the identity it's tied to.

Anyone really trying to change things is not operating on amazon, or minds.com, which my analysis discovered is just like steemiit, a site that makes propagandists look like they are real people making money propagandizing, and a honeypot time sink for everyone else.

Another personal attack. You're not addressing the content of this specific message. And you're merely describing the effects that minds.com and Steemit have in general. But even if your description is true, that doesn't make every single user of those platforms a propagandist. A genuine person may legitimately see them as useful platforms to spread information. James Corbett uses both platforms. Is he a propagandist?

aaaand promoted by magnora,

Another personal attack, and this time directed at the very admin of this site. Should we distrust them? Why? Based on beef you had with them in the past? Obviously there's nothing wrong with it if magnora posts links on their very own website, and likewise if one ends up being the top post.

aaaand the statement is so obvious it almost does not need to be said at all. Saying self evident things is not insightful, it is the opposite of insightful.

No, the statement is not obvious. People are very much driven by emotions, and watching the video of Floyd's killing can mislead people into supporting an ideology while losing sight of the man behind the curtain. Even people here. And even if it was obvious, it can still be helpful as a way of counteracting the propaganda that we're all exposed to. George Orwell wrote that in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. These are the times we're living in, and we need reminders like this.

If we are at the point where stating the obvious is like "whoaaaa", wait until you read something actually novel like my website and books.

So your entire post has been toxic, and then you conclude with blatant self-promotion? I don't know what to make of you. You're making yourself look like a shill. I'm not saying you are. I've read three of your plays and it makes me happy that people here are using art to spread a message. But you're stooping quite low right now. Please cut it out.

[–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain you're going to hear about shill tactics and see more personal attacks.

Edit: maybe not? https://saidit.net/s/quotes/comments/4pyq/our_lives_begin_to_end_the_day_we_become_silent/hnuq

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is not a personal attack, I am not saying "he is a bad person" or I do not like his hair, I am saying his work is suspect for a dozen reasons.

Saying steemit and minds suck is not a personal attack. I spent a lot of time at both of those places, I have written actual essays about why I think steemit is a psyop, on steemit. I have actually directly messaged the founders with critical questions which they ignored.

You have done nothing but try to reframe my arguments as personal attacks, which is lazy and manipulative.

I am pointing out a pattern to magnora, that he protects offensive trolls, and posts content that is for some reason brigaded up at reddit, and that he is evasive when personally questioned about such, and even today he has responded with shill tactics just like yours. Conflation, innuendo, etc.

The fact that it swtiched form pandemic stay at home, to get out in the streets to protect black people from evil while people, is obvious to anyone not in a cave the last 2 months, or maybe you are just an idiot. Or you are being disingenuous, but since shilling is organized idiocy, and ruining the world, I find it difficult to separate them.

And you conclude with an actual personal attack, rather than evaluating whether or not my work, which actually did get censored at reddit, actually addresses what I claim it addresses.

Actual writers are allowed to promote their own work without shame, especially if they are taking a stand against amazon and the corrupt publishing industry, and there is nothing wrong with it.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

None of your points would've been valid if VonYugen posted his message anonymously, and if magnora posted it here anonymously. That's what makes it clear that they're personal attacks. And now I'm done wasting time on you.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of us never will because you are way too pissy, passive-aggressive and negative.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting, but I find it kind of odd you're down on other people for plugging their things, while you simultaneously plug your book, lol

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one here is plugging their things, nearly everyone here is talking from a position of "ghost on the internet who only spouts off"

This was not vanwhatever himself reposting this, which is also up at r/conspiracy without being brigaded, do you not find that odd?

I actually went and looked up what he was writing about, tried to find his work, far more than anyone here has demonstrated they were capable of doing with my four books and website it would take you a month to read(where I also promote many, many other people).

Again, shill tactic, conflation, innuendo, yawn

[–]copenseethe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is a plot by the firearms industry.