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[–]369[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Humanity may not move forward without experiencing adversity. Times of great chaos, of great despair, are opportunities for heroes to emerge, for a shift to take hold.

Things have to happen this way because a long time ago we were dragged down to the state we're in now. When that occurred, we were parted with our abilities which made us more effective in shaping the world around us. The atrophy that took hold has taken its course and we still haven't even gotten close to fully recovering. Because of this, the ones that lie in wait and who preserve the continuity of this place and our people have to play a very careful hand. If things recover too quickly, we may lose our chance to escape the grasp of the ones holding us here. If things happen too slowly, we may fall back in to apathy and dismay and concede the chance to progress along the spiral.

In short, things have to happen this way because there's still stragglers out there, ones that haven't awoken from the dream. People today still lead lives which are too comfortable, assume positions that are too pampered, and avoid at all cost any sharp edges. Should they jump in the deep end, realize how scary it isn't and begin to work their way up from the bottom again, we can all have an easier time along this pay.

I think this is a good time to remind you (yes, remind you) that things have got to be difficult for a reason. Little good ever happens here without sizable adversity. In the beginning of the series The Magicians (which is filled with quite a few tasteless themes, mind you), it's explained that the characters in the story do not acquire magic from a soft and unimpeded upbringing, but from disaster, from pain and from adversity. But, what if it wasn't just some tell-a-vision show?

I was hoping that by now you would have guessed that despite both of our efforts, this remains a legitimate area of question for good reason. I'm still of the opinion we're not supposed to know, again, for very good reason.

I want to know also, but I think it may help a little to know that the reason we can't scrape any more away is because that part of the story is still being written. After all, considering your fascination with this subject, I'd venture to guess that you're more versed on it than I. I can reiterate some things though - TMNT, Byrd and the Arianni are important and what's been recorded as having been found under the ice caps are all important to understand.

Still, as unfortunate as it sounds, the ones you call "Jews" continue to work today in tandem with what you would call the "4th Reich". The spiritual elements of Nazism are, from what I gather, their real value. Unfortunately, it's not simple to understand these subjects, so I'm going to relent while I still can.

Again, I'd like to know more, but I just don't see the same value in understanding as you seem to. I hope you find what you're looking for regardless, friend.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not gonna lie d00d, you creeped me out with this:

I think this is a good time to remind you (yes, remind you) that things have got to be difficult for a reason. Little good ever happens here without sizable adversity. In the beginning of the series The Magicians (which is filled with quite a few tasteless themes, mind you), it's explained that the characters in the story do not acquire magic from a soft and unimpeded upbringing, but from disaster, from pain and from adversity. But, what if it wasn't just some tell-a-vision show?

lmao, how da fuck u know what I just started watching? I agree with everything you said (including the tasteless themes in the show - it's like I'm watching 50 minutes of garbage for 5 minutes worth of actually interesting content that relates to the real world), including everything you've said outside of this quote. I understand what you're saying. "Nothing good comes from the comfort zone". How can one learn if they stay in the comfort zone? And hypothetically, if a being is trying to develop spiritually, how can they learn from staying in a zone filled with comfort?

Again, 2 final questions if you'll entertain me once more now that you've now brought up new content via your response:

"When that occurred, we were parted with our abilities which made us more effective in shaping the world around us."

This is ambigious; it can be taken in many ways. Are you talking Alchemy? Mysticism? Gnosticism?

"If things recover too quickly, we may lose our chance to escape the grasp of the ones holding us here."

Who are the ones holding us here, or at the very least, why are they holding us here? You mentioned earlier "we are being farmed". Is this why?

Thank you for your thoughtful responses, I genuinely appreciate them.

[–]369[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are you talking Alchemy? Mysticism? Gnosticism?

Those are all areas that apply but it's up to you to attribute reason to the topics. All I can do is show you what to aim at.

Who are the ones holding us here, or at the very least, why are they holding us here? You mentioned earlier "we are being farmed". Is this why?

We've already covered "who", but they're holding us here as an experiment of sorts, as far as I know. Besides, you pretty much answered your own question.

By the way, I think the reason you started watching it recently is probably for the same reason I started watching it a short while ago. I think it just means both of us are paying closer attention than we realize.

Twin Peaks is probably next for me. Hell, we've got some catching up to do... don't we? Did you ever get around to watching Lost?

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I'm not even kidding or saying this to "appease" you, but Twinpeaks is next for me too, it's been recommended to me by several people irl lmao. And yeah, I've watched Lost a bunch of times! It's actually the first show or "series" I ever watched, that got me into watching series like these!

Edit: Btw, I do believe a lot is revealed through these "series" or "tell-a-vision" or "programming" shows. It's just it's mostly filled with garbage. But if you pay attention, for whatever reason, they do reveal truths from time to time; sometimes it doesn't even relate to the story being told, it just appears in the form of a joke.

Besides, you pretty much answered your own question

Hmm, I think I understand what you mean by this, so then you agree with what I said about everything in relation 2 "The Egg/comfort"?

[–]369[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, I think I understand what you mean by this, so then you agree with what I said about everything in relation "The Egg/comfort"?

When it comes to sensations like comfort, there is always an antithesis. The value in understanding that is that through synthesis comes about growth. Comfort eases adversity. Adversity rewards comfort. I tend to imagine it as a pendulum.