Warning To Woke Mothers

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Does this woman oppose circumcision as well?

Because people have been mutilating their sons for a lot longer than woke-ism has existed.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Religious nutjobs are always obsessed with children's genitals. All religions are evil.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

That's an incredibly ignorant take. Religion has done a lot to quell men's evil desires. It is evil morons who turn around and blame the evil actions of people on religion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58801183

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Religion has been used to excuse and encourage all sorts of heinous shit over the millennia.

It's not all bad, but it's bad enough to make me want to avoid it.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Non religious excuses have been used even more. Communism, for example.

Just because someone says religion made them do it doesn't mean that is true.

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Communism is a religion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Non-religious acts of evil do not justify or excuse religious acts of evil. I regard communism as evil, as I do religions. I also agree that communism has many traits seen in religions and can be considered comparable. Quite simply, many religious evils are accepted in society simply because they are religious in nature, such as genital mutilation in Judaism or the systematic abuse of women under Islam.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Non-religious acts of evil do not justify or excuse religious acts of evil.

Strawman argument. The claim that religion cases acts of evil is disproven by non-religious acts of evil.

I regard communism as evil, as I do religions

You are blaming the tools and not the person who wields them.

Quite simply, many religious evils are accepted in society

Perhaps we should consider the good and the bad together. Jewish ritual mutilation serves other purposes. It would take a lot of philosophical thought and discussion to truly have an intelligent opinion on it.

systematic abuse of women under Islam.

For the sake of argument consider the following.. One could easily argue that the precipitous fall of the west started with feminism and suffrage. Muslim countries are shit places to live for everyone. If women's liberation can destroy the west there is no telling what it would do to the middle east.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a strawman argument. Non-religious people do not commit acts on behalf of their non-belief, but if I ask you has any person committed an act of evil on behalf of their god, the answer is obvious. How many suicide bombers believe they are going to paradise for having fulfilled Allah's wishes? How many wars have been fought because one belief is allegedly superior to another?

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't think that's true. There have certainly been more religious people than communists throughout the ages. Billions more.

And if evil people can use religion as an excuse, couldn't they also use communism (or whatever) as an excuse? By your logic, it wouldn't be communism's fault.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

There have also been many people throughout history who have done good in the name of religion. I think any rational analysis of Christianity would find that it is on the whole a good thing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes to the first part, strongly disagree with the second.

"On the whole," I think Christianity has done more harm than good. Too much bloodshed and abuse and hysteria. I think there are better alternatives.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think there has been a lot of slander pushed against christians by leftists because Christianity has stood in the way of thier degeneracy, and also by jews who historically hate Christianity but also because want to push society in a radically leftist agenda. I think you fell for that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You could then argue that there is a lot of slander toward atheists by Christians and Muslims. Did you know atheism is considered religious extremism in Dubai, some have been sentenced to death there. The late Christopher Hitchens did well to dismantle much of the dogmatic bullshit surrounding the purity of religion, all religion. Good deeds are done by individuals who happen to be religious, and they may even do it in the name of religion, but the religious organisations and establishments have known history of evil deeds. It's even written down in the religious texts. Sodomy, murder, rape, slavery, genocide, etc. It's all there. The left are ideologically corrupt just as the church is.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My parents were Christian fundamentalists, and they were horribly abusive because of that. My aversion to Christianity stems from personal experience, not politics. I'm certain my childhood would've been a lot more enjoyable if my parents hadn't been Christians.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed.

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    [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    How is it different?

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      The woman in the video said:

      Some of you are going as far as nudging your kids to have irreversible procedures that they're gonna have to live with for the rest of their lives. Imagine their reaction when they grow up and realize what you did.

      I was making a comparison to circumcision because it's also an irreversible procedure. One that many men resent having inflicted upon them by their groupthinking parents.

      And circumcision has existed for thousands of years, it's not just a fad like transing children.

      My point was; Parents have been mutilating their sons for a long time, long before the 'woke' nonsense. Did she care about that, or is her concern limited to transgenderism?

      If the latter, then, she's a hypocrite. If she circumcised her son, or would circumcise a son if she had one, then, she's a hypocrite.

      Does that make sense?

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        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Male circumcision is more damaging than most people realize, and actually worse than some forms of FGM.

        But I would agree that transing a child is definitely worse than circumcision.

        I wish parents would leave their children's genitals alone, in general. All of it's unnecessary and weird.

        Thanks for being cool.

        [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Do you think circumcision is done because of munchhousen by proxy? That sounds absurd to me. I don't think that is a realistic claim at all.

        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        I wasn't claiming that.

        I was making a comparison between circumcising your child and transing your child. A lot of people are mad about the latter, but have never cared about the former. Even though circumcision has been around for a lot longer and has billions of victims.

        It's annoying to me that most people only seem to care about protecting children from mutilation if it's related to transgenderism. Many parents who are anti-trans cry about 'irreversible damage' being done to kids, but then turn around and cut up their son's penis for no good reason.

        [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I don't like either, but cutting the skin off the dick is a lot less severe than totally mind fucking a child then castrating them chemically.

        These two things are not even in the same ballpark.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm not arguing that they're the same, I agree that transing a child is worse than circumcision. I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of people who only hate one but not the other.

        If one thinks transing children is wrong, one can't condone circumcision without being morally inconsistent. And vice versa.

        Many of the parents who oppose transgenderism have had their own sons mutilated. And many of the people who support transgenderism are opposed to circumcision.

        I could've explained myself better in my original comment. I'm just bothered by all the hypocrisy and inconsistency.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Both of those things are retarded