Mozilla, Firefox planning to censor conservatives at the browser level; deplatforming isn’t enough
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[–]forgottenpasswordguy 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (4 children)
Dangerously few browser choices out there. It's always good to support the options, otherwise they cease to exist and you end up here.
[–]Bigs 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
I'm rocking Vivaldi so far. It's like Opera used to be, but better.
[–]projectparanoid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Interesting. Is this not Chromium based (like I believe Opera is now)?
[–]buffalo_fart 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
i like Vivaldi musically. ill give it a go.
[–]Trajan 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
Mozilla: how can we further reduce our already dwindling market share?
[–]BidensLaptopMatters 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
On the contrary, this may be their bid to increase their market share amongst woke leftists.
[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
I'm sure they believe that! Unfortunately the number of woke people is actually pretty small. They're just very noisy due the woke cult domination of the media, social or otherwise.
[–]wristaction 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
2014 was when the Mozilla Foundation cancelled its founder, Brendan Eich, for donating to the Prop 8 campaign in CA.
[–]AssaultCoder 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
This is how a browser dies.
[–]bjam27 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
Haven't used Firefox in a decade.
Brave browser is light years better.
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[–]EvilNick 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
whats it matter, but chromium, not chrome
[–]BigFatRetard 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Yes, that's the benefit of using open source, is you can fork it and make something else without starting from scratch.
[–]EvilNick 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (7 children)
use dissenter
https://dissenter.com/download
[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (6 children)
Just downloaded that, it's great! Thanks!!
[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (5 children)
have you found the built in comment plugin?
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (4 children)
I've seen it mentioned, what's it do?
[–]EvilNick 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
its in the top right of he browser, a green "D". YOu click it and it basically opens a secondary proprietary comment system on whatever page your on thats outside the website itself. its not part of that websites comment section at all but allows you to avoid moderation and comment on stuff that even doesnt allow it.
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
Oh wow that is utterly AMAZING. FINALLY.
[–]EvilNick 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Right, go to the streets, tell the public!
[–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
its great for sites like IGN that are festeringly over moderated by the wrong types of people
[–]dontbuyanylogos 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Jesus Christ it's going to be very soon identical to China levels of censorship
[–]Drewski 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
Where has Mozilla said anything about implementing browser level blocking?
[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
I don't see that specifically stated in their announcement, and you raise a very good point.
It seems the author of the article linked is inferring it. I don't think Mozilla will by default introduce blocking. They're not completely insane, even if they seem bent on pushing the kind of censorship they'd have railed against a decade ago. The worst I can imagine is they'd install an ad-on, one that can be disabled, that 'fact checks' content. This would of course be fact-checking provided by the likes of Snopes and the ADL.
[–]Node 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
What benefit do they hope to reap by provoking people to kill them?
[–]stevebee 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
what business has a software development co. have to do with politics?
[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
These people don't care about the financial bottom line, they are driven by their radical ideology. They go into businesses and utterly destroy them. "Go woke go broke" has been proven true over and over again.
[–]projectparanoid 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
Serious question: Does anyone know of a browser that is NOT a derivative or fork of either Chrome (Chromium) or Firefox?
I realize Microsoft Edge and Opera exist, but I refuse to use those for other reasons, mostly privacy related. Brave and all the others are derivative of Chromium (which is still Chrome/Google).
I read recently (though the article seems to have been buried/removed now) that even though Chromium is fully open sourced, very few people had actually reviewed all the code. As I recall, it turns out there is still google tracking code built into the Chromium core, which is why I say it is still Google.
I realize my claim is a bit unsubstantiated here, and if I can find the article again, I will certainly follow up by posting it.
To summarize, supposing that it's no longer safe (from a privacy and censorship perspective) to use anything based on Chromium or Firefox, and that other more "commercial" browsers (like Opera and Edge) are out, what other options are there?
I think what I'm getting at, is that there is essentially a browser monopoly as well. I remember 20-25 years ago, when it seemed like everyone was trying to make a better web browser so there were literally hundreds to choose from. Many of them did not share the same codebase, so you really were getting a unique implementation each time.
Sorry for the wall of text/rant, but I'm curious as to opinions or suggestions for alternate browsers.
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[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
😡
[–]PatDaddysFShack 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (9 children)
The words MAGAt's and conservatives can be used interchangeably; they are one and the same. If you're a conservative then you support Repubtards and by extension, the dear leader himself. You are a scoundrel and enabler and should be censored at the mouth level.
[–]sendmetovegas 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
likewise, the words FAGAt and democrat can also be used interchangeably.. they are one and the same.
[–]fishbox 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
the difference is that there is nothing wrong with being a fagot.
[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago* (0 children)
Yes it is
[–]EvilNick 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (5 children)
are you retarded?
[–]PatDaddysFShack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (4 children)
Are you stupid?
[–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
if you admit to being retarded sure. Ill be a martyr.
[–]PatDaddysFShack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
I think you're stupid and a terrible person for saying that.
[–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
Boo hoo
[–]PatDaddysFShack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
I can't even take you seriously anymore.
[–]buffalo_fart 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
so what will happen to Tor browser seeing its handshaking with firefox?
Hmm 🤔
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
lesson learned. libs were weak on you traitors for years. Enough. You're out planning coups so we gotta eradicate you.
[–]Lahontan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Some day you'll have the wrong thought or opinion, and the thought police will snatch you out of your bed at night and your family will be proud that you die alone in a cell.
[–]adultmanhwa 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
everyone can be a traitor, and if any traitor it should be punished publicly
[–]HiddenFox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Not that anyone here is using chrome but do they or are they palning the same thing for their browser? If so could Google implement the same censorship directly to their android OS?
[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
Rip waterfox, cyberfox and palemoon too
[–]goatmeal 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
will those forks be adopting these features too?
[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
They are dead browsers now
[–]adultmanhwa 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
I argue pale moon is still awesome to use
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