I can't believe people speculate on whether or not Jews influence or even control American culture and government. LOL

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[–]magnora7 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Well at least we can still talk about Zionists, who are the real seat of power anyway. The Zionists sure love to hide behind the Jews, they use them like a shield to take all the hits, like this legislation basically implies.

In many ways, few have abused the Jews more than the Zionists, all for the sake of profit and power. Half of US Jews reject Zionism according to polls.

Then also in the US there are many Christian Zionists, aka the "Israel-first" people.

The result is legislation like in your post. And the people of America get left behind, while our tax dollars get sent to Israel or conducting wars for Israel's benefit. I am tired of it, and it will end eventually.

[–]Orangutan[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am tired of it, and it will end eventually.

Awesome man!! Will be fun over the next twenty years or so...

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sort of. Atheistical bolsheviks are still around as well as Jewish Internationalists, who don't even care about ZIonism per say. The yactually use ZIonism to their benefit.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Notice that this isn't a law, as /u/HopeThatHalps has pointed out. The image has been all but doctored; as it is, it's cleverly cropped and with big red circles to distract from the few warning signs still left in the screenshot (e.g. the big "European" label that suggests that it isn't a law binding US citizens).

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Here's the actual page: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/672?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22h.r.+672%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1

This bill requires the Department of State to include in its Annual Report on International Religious Freedom information about each European country where there have been particularly significant threats or attacks against Jewish persons or institutions. The report shall include information about the security needs of such Jewish communities, U.S. efforts to partner with European law enforcement agencies and civil society groups, European public awareness initiatives to promote pluralism and tolerance, and efforts by European governments to adopt and apply a working definition of anti-Semitism.

So basically it generates official statistics about anti-semitic acts in Europe, for the US government to use to then justify action later.

Here's the whole text of the bill, it's quite short: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/672/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22h.r.+672%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=3

It is indeed less severe than the original post leads one to believe, but it's still a bit alarming in its own way.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

particularly significant threats or attacks

I'm not sure it's that severe. Anti-Semitism is as much of a problem as racism in some parts of the world. (Does it count as racism?)

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Anti-semitism is a problem for in some places sure, but Jews are already such a protected class anyway and they're just generating statistics to ask for more protections because of the actions of a few lone individuals. Especially when many anti-semitic acts have come to light as being perpetuated by Jews themselves because it benefits them to get the help and protection that come as a result of the apparent victimization.

Knowing this kind of taints the way I look at laws like this. Is there a similar law for Christians? Or Buddhists? Or Atheists? Why or why not? I think these would be things worth researching and thinking about if we were to pursue this particular issue more deeply.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It might be a good idea to keep an eye on that which was a precursor to the deadliest war in history. Germany wasn't a few lone individuals. The xenophobia in the U.S. is not a few lone individuals, either. This is dangerous shit.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How about this: we agree to try to defend the rights of everybody to be free from persecution? Instead of arguing "oh, these people have more protection; we should attack them more to make up for it" which some people actually say,we should be trying to raise the standard for everyone else and to make these sorts of laws less necessary.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I see what you're saying, but antisemitism has historical significance, and is especially dangerous. It's a bit like saying "all lives matter" in the face of a problem that is effecting particular lives, not all of them. It's a disingenuous call for inclusiveness that downplays the significance of both the victims and the problem. It's adding insult to injury.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're not going to be able to convince this crowd that that historical significance isn't an elaborate hoax, unfortunately. (By "this crowd", I don't mean all Saidit users; you know who I mean.) I'm trying to trick 'em into tolerance by leveraging the inconsistencies in their belief systems, but I'm no expert in doing this. I do know that making them confront the cognitive dissonance head-on makes them double down on whatever you're confronting them about, so I'm trying to avoid that.

… Wait… A plan is forming— no, too risky. (This is a note for future me, when I'm reviewing this comment at a later date, so I know why not to do the thing I've thought of. It wouldn't be ethical.)