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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Anti-semitism is a problem for in some places sure, but Jews are already such a protected class anyway and they're just generating statistics to ask for more protections because of the actions of a few lone individuals. Especially when many anti-semitic acts have come to light as being perpetuated by Jews themselves because it benefits them to get the help and protection that come as a result of the apparent victimization.

Knowing this kind of taints the way I look at laws like this. Is there a similar law for Christians? Or Buddhists? Or Atheists? Why or why not? I think these would be things worth researching and thinking about if we were to pursue this particular issue more deeply.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It might be a good idea to keep an eye on that which was a precursor to the deadliest war in history. Germany wasn't a few lone individuals. The xenophobia in the U.S. is not a few lone individuals, either. This is dangerous shit.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How about this: we agree to try to defend the rights of everybody to be free from persecution? Instead of arguing "oh, these people have more protection; we should attack them more to make up for it" which some people actually say,we should be trying to raise the standard for everyone else and to make these sorts of laws less necessary.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I see what you're saying, but antisemitism has historical significance, and is especially dangerous. It's a bit like saying "all lives matter" in the face of a problem that is effecting particular lives, not all of them. It's a disingenuous call for inclusiveness that downplays the significance of both the victims and the problem. It's adding insult to injury.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're not going to be able to convince this crowd that that historical significance isn't an elaborate hoax, unfortunately. (By "this crowd", I don't mean all Saidit users; you know who I mean.) I'm trying to trick 'em into tolerance by leveraging the inconsistencies in their belief systems, but I'm no expert in doing this. I do know that making them confront the cognitive dissonance head-on makes them double down on whatever you're confronting them about, so I'm trying to avoid that.

… Wait… A plan is forming— no, too risky. (This is a note for future me, when I'm reviewing this comment at a later date, so I know why not to do the thing I've thought of. It wouldn't be ethical.)