“Dark” right-wing network recruits MAGA “army” to replace 50K federal workers Trump plans to purge

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[–]BobOki 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is really easy to stop. If people would just hire the best candidate for jobs and NOT biased bullshit check boxes, anti-checkboxes, political crap, or religious crap..... then this would not happen from EITHER side. And is the right REALLY so stupid as to think if they make this president, that the left will not do the same? Why are these two parties so dangerously short sighted?

[–]Site_rly_sux 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Lol you think the lunatic right wingers are okay with "big government" as long as the hires are all...masters degrees? No - as the link shows, if you read it - they have to be virtue signallers to trumpworld. You cannot just be a highly qualified government employee who was hired on merit - you also HAVE to be aligned with trump. That's what this story is about

Why are these two parties so dangerously short sighted?

I only read about one party's plan for taking office, in the link we're commenting on

[–]BobOki 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Did I say I thought any of that, or are you just projecting?

From what you said, I can infer that the right is just following what the left has been doing for about 4 years now, and that is only hiring who they want. From Disney, or Best Buy, to Starbucks... and plenty more, have wanted to hire minorities only, some, like Best Buy, are even flat out open about it and no one on the left was throwing baby hissy fits like you are now. So the right is insane, no argument there, but you are a partisan hack, ideolog, and idiot if you think the left does not do the SAME SHIT as the right, does not give TWO SHITS about the people, and are just in it to make the rich richer.

If the left is so awesome, where are the laws against insider trading? How about discrimination hiring, lowering their ever rising paychecks (of which they get yearly and sometimes twice a year raises), banning first past the post, adopting an actual democratic voting system such as weighted, healthcare for all, standing up for the rights of all (not just minorities), etc. I think you will find that you "party" there does what politicians have always done. NOTHING but talk. They know full well anything they would pass would affect their own bottom line or their ability to have the monopoly on politics in America they enjoy with the collusion both parties do to enrich themselves. The right may be pieces of shit that hate womens rights and hide behind religion to pass shit laws, but at least they wear what they are on their sleeves, not lie to everyone and act like they give two shits, whereas the left cannot even be honest about that, as they are not honest with ANYTHING they say.

I am a fuck both parties type of guy because both parties are the WORST this country has to offer when it comes to radicalization, but I will be damned if I just sit back and let people be delusional and think their own shit doesn't stink while they walk around covered in it and are told by the other lunatics covered in shit that they are helping others. Get real, get off the political/ideological mind rotting drug, NONE of these guys even know you exist and would not even glance at you if you were bleeding in the streets calling out for help, stop thinking it is anything other than that.

[–]Site_rly_sux 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did I say I thought any of that, or are you just projecting?

You said,

If people would just hire the best candidate for jobs and NOT biased bullshit check boxes, anti-checkboxes, political crap, or religious crap..... then this would not happen

So yeah it's exactly what you said.

My point is that - no, it wouldn't stop happening if only all the hires were 100% merit based. Because then, like we see in the link, anyone who doesn't cleave to trump's worldview is dangerous to the 50k lunatics in the OP story.

From what you said, I can infer that the right is just following what the left has been doing for about 4 years now, and that is only hiring who they want

That's not in the link. Source something if you want me to believe it's a real phenomenon.

If the left is so awesome, where are the laws against insider trading?

What does that have to do with anything? We're discussing the OP story.

Did you think insider trading is legal?!

think their own shit doesn't stink

Where did I identify myself with any side of this argument lol? It's a story about trump and the right wing. You can click it and read it yourself, don't just believe me.

When you reply to a story about trump saying "so both sides are bad" and someone corrects you that this is a story about trump - I'm not claiming either side. I'm not saying anyone's shit doesn't stink. I'm simply correcting your false misinformation that this story somehow reflects badly on the democratic party

Okay back on topic.

You said that you think this wouldn't happen, if only all the federal government hires were 100% merit based.

So I want to hear from you: do you truly believe that (after reading the OP link) that if the federal government employees were all merit based, then trump wouldn't be looking to sack everyone and replace them with loyalist.

Actually - do you believe all 50k on the list are merit-based and planned to be in a position suitable for their skills?

Did you think that trump is compiling a list of 50k competent individuals without reference to their political leanings? Is anyone on that list who doesn't support trump, do you think?

[–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Man I am not going to read your wall-o-text when the VERY FIRST POINT is the opposite of what you are arguing. I said the way to fix this is to hire the best candidate, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE SHIT CURRENTLY IS DONE and stop saying I am, and using logical fallacies to act like you are right. That right there is the Equivocation fallacy and I go FULL STOP when someone has to stoop so low just to try and argue (not debate, that has decorum) something when they are wrong.

Looking at your post history you seem to do nothing but ARGUE, not debate, with others, gaslight and straw man them, cry victim, and otherwise troll. Consider yourself blocked, you have nothing useful to bring to this site, go back to Reddit where your circle jerk is wanted.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So am I blocked or not?

I said the way to fix this is to hire the best candidate, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE SHIT CURRENTLY IS DONE

Let's check again

This is really easy to stop. If people would just hire the best candidate for jobs and NOT biased bullshit check boxes, anti-checkboxes, political crap, or religious crap..... then this would not happen from EITHER side.

It's really easy to stop trump from making a list of 50k loyalists - the federal government just needs to hire based on merit. And then trump would not try to replace 50k people with his loyalists.

That's what you said.

Okay so...trump wouldn't make a list of 50k loyalists, if federal employees were hired based on merit.

  1. Do you think trump's list are assigned positions according to their merit?

  2. Do you think trump's list are politically neutral individuals?

  3. Do you really think "this is really easy to stop" - do you really think that trumptards would have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with big government if only all the hires were merit-based?

You seem to have your head in your ass. Go ahead and block me then, dipshit

[–]cunninglingus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

head in your ass

He do - by arguing with the help of false statements that change the topic somewhat, rather than by providing logical arguments that are on topic and backing those up with reliable evidence. Congratulations on your patience with all that.