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[–]popcorn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

That will be the safest place to live. If a mass shooting breaks out the shooter will be killed in 2 seconds.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So... more mass shootings but the mass shooter will be dealt with quickly. Good I guess?

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Why would it cause more mass shootings?

I've never really understood the logic behind concealed carry permits, as opposed to open carry at least. It seems to me that a potential shooter would not be concerned with permit laws and would conceal their weapon anyway regardless of legality. Open carry seems far more problematic to me see one could potentially be seen as intimidating.

You don't know if someone is concealed carrying or not until they pull it out so I don't know how requiring permits or not will change it. It's not like you can search everyone for guns right?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's pretty hard to explain why the US has an order of magnitude more murders per capita than other first world countries apart from the ease at which Americans can obtain and carry firearms.

What do you attribute it to?

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Access to fire arms certainly contributes to a higher murder rate. I don't think the legality of concealed carry much effects the ability of criminals to buy firearms.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think the legality of concealed carry much effects the ability of criminals to buy firearms.

I would imagine that permitless concealed carry laws would affect the ability of criminals to carry firearms without being stopped before using them more than their ability to buy them.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How?

If the weapon is concealed then it will only be noticed upon a search or after it is pulled out to be used.

You may have a case where a weapon is found in a search. But there's a higher chance that the search simply won't happen because you don't know who is carrying?

The entire distinction between concealed or open carry having separate permit requirements makes absolutely zero sense to me.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the weapon is concealed then it will only be noticed upon a search or after it is pulled out to be used.

The search would the the one that reduces the mass shootings, as after it is pulled out to be used wouldn't generally be soon enough.

You may have a case where a weapon is found in a search. But there's a higher chance that the search simply won't happen because you don't know who is carrying?

Agree that it would only work where police suspect that a person is likely to be about to commit a crime, or dumb luck. Which would be a minority of mass shootings.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Didn't get past the second sentence huh?

It will take effect September 10 and Nebraska becomes the 26th state to do it. - TFA

[–]Drewski[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Iowa does, as well.

Midwest sensibility.