Saidit users who aren't "alt-right," why aren't you?

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They were brutal savages, not noble savages. The noble savage myth was invented by anthropologists who were lying

Yes absolutely, I should have expanded upon that, it wasn't my intention to imply they weren't brutal savages, just that the British of that period don't seem unambiguously less dysfunctional in their own ways.

I certainly like the idea of de-complexifaction better, but I don't have an answer to your critique about the likelihood of conquest by other states, this part does seem inevitable. I'll admit its a bit utopian.

Yes, the only modern state that deals with the problems of the technological society, media etc to create a pro-social, high social capital etc society has been fascism.

Well, I do think this an important problem to address, and admit I perhaps do not have the full picture of how fascism relates to this issue specifically. Is there any reading you might suggest to give me a better understanding of fascist thinking regarding this particular subject?

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Well, I do think this an important problem to address, and admit I perhaps do not have the full picture of how fascism relates to this issue specifically. Is there any reading you might suggest to give me a better understanding of fascist thinking regarding this particular subject?

There does not yet exist a book that analyses this and juxtaposes the Third Reich to the Postmodern West. It's just me piecing together stuff from books, podcasts, articles, studies etc either on fascism or studying the history of the west post-war IE their response to fascism and how they've consciously engineered society to be the inverse of fascism through intentional deracination, atomisation, suburbanisation, city planning around cars, postmodernism/anti-authoritarian personality, destroying the family and church, getting rid of unions and social clubs etc etc.

If I ever write this book I'll be sure to let you know lol. There does exist tonnes of books on each of these topics individually though, most of them don't talk about fascism/NS but if you learn about post-war projects and then combine that with 'Bowling for Fascism' and 'The Civic Foundations of Fascism' you can get a pretty decent footing.

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I think another part of this is that I often see negative aspects of authoritarian ideologies, it leaves me skeptical about any ideology that has this aspect. At the same time, I'd have to say that it isn't the authoritarianism itself that I object to - I object to bad authority, and I've seen plenty of bad authority. However, I have no objection to a theoretical perfect (or even good enough) authority, so I realize this is a bias more than a real philosophical objection

You've represented your ideology in a compelling and thoughtful manner, enough that I am curious to check out some of these materials and get a better idea about the fascist school of thought.

I appreciate the intellectually stimulating conversation about these ideas