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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I believe - either if enough guns are lying around for civilians or not - this still stays more a problem of culture, ideology or milieu though. Even-though i follow your ideas with the stone in the shoe.

In Switzerland and Canada (afaik) are lying just about as many guns around per citizen as in US. But they don't clock the murder rate US does. Baltimore seems to be a real black murder-hole e.g. in this aspect. Possibly the most "extreme" example in the "western" world that is not a Banana republic (social-"progress"-wise regarded) as Brazil e.g. is.

[–]StillLessons[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree. This is where real solutions would lie, looking into what is different in those countries versus in the US. The answer - as you imply, though don't state - is social cohesion. The reason people are snapping and going on shooting sprees is not because of the weaponry to which they have access, but because our media and government class (the same people) have used every opportunity to set groups against each other (black/white, jabbed/unjabbed, pro-war/anti-war, urban/rural, etc, etc, etc). There have been zero attempts I have seen in the dominant media or political discourse over the past decade for competing groups to get together and negotiate. Negotiation is now seen as "capitulation" and is automatically ruled out. Well, take that political strategy and translate it into the broader population through the cultural organs (as they very much have done), and you end up with insanely angry individuals.

This is the problem when a governing class believes themselves morally superior to those "below" them. They have entirely forgotten about representation. It's a pipe-dream now. Yet they are surprised when people who no longer have any way to be represented in their perspective lose their shit. The grand poobahs like to treat all these issues separately - each in its own little box - but when they treat half their population like serfs, there is a connection when that half of the population generates unstable souls with an inability to process the truth of their rage.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Concise and sound.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As the social cohesion of Canada has deteriorated over the last 20 years, so has the violent crime rate increased, directly corroborating your point on this matter.

If you will allow me to bid up the cynicysm, I would like to state my view that this divisive stance of the media and political class is precisely and purposely done in order to maximize violence, so as to justify eventually banning guns, therefore allowing the upcoming worldwide totalitarian communist regime to take hold everywhere including the USA.

The longer a 2A repeal is resisted, the more violent crime will increase, and the longer it will take for the commie dictators to achieve their wet dream of absolute worldwide totalitarianism.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most European countries have a total ban on guns. In Greece, gangs of "immigrants" or gypsies attack people on a daily basis and often kill them as well. They don't appear to have a problem acquiring guns and they don't appear to have a problem doing some time in prison. My point is that the murder rate doesn't appear to be lower than the US one.