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[–]BravoVictor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Driving a car is very unlikely to get you killed. But if you get into an accident, you're much better off wearing a seatbelt than not. The benefits range from not having a busted lip to not dying.

I agree. And yet we're not threatening demonizing anyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt. No one's saying people who refuse to wear their seatbelt should be fired from their job, have their bank account frozen, or denied healthcare.

Where did you get those stats from? 0.8% is lower than the case fatality rate for alpha to delta. The hospitalization rate should be considerably higher than that.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-overestimate-covid-19-underestimate-030000133.html

"Since the vaccine was rolled out in December 2020, just 0.89% of unvaccinated people in the United States have been hospitalized due to COVID-19."

Yes, there is. It's literally the vaccine.

My point was that obesity, heart disease and other lingering quality-of-life illnesses are the main drivers of Covid deaths, due to the way Covid deaths are counted.

George Floyd, the infamous black guy allegedly suffocated by a cop in 2020, was found in the autopsy to have Covid, a disease that famously makes people weak and have difficulty breathing. And yet a court of law ruled he died from being suffocated by the cop. The evidence used in court largely relied on the coroner's judgement on the cause of death, which is subjective. The coroner found no trauma to Floyd's neck or airways, but still ruled that it was suffocation, and decided to not believe Covid or Floyd's excessive drug use played any part. If it had been a different coroner, a different judgement might have been made, which might have drastically effected history.

How Covid deaths are counted is horribly inconsistent and complicated, and largely depends on what the local coroner thinks. Some count anyone dying with Covid as a Covid death. Others, like in Floyd's case, don't.

Natural immunity discounted, transplant candidates are and will remain vulnerable for the rest of their lives.

You're arguing that people should get the vaccine because it slightly decreases the risk of death. Yet you're also arguing that people who don't get the vaccine should be denied a transplant, because giving a transplant to an unvaccinated person would slightly increase their risk of death due to a compromise immune system. Those two beliefs are incompatible, since not getting a transplant is a death sentence. If your aim is to reduce the risk of death, transplants should be given to people regardless of vaccination status.

You can logically argue that vaccination is also recommended, but you can't logically be both pro-vaccine and pro-denial of healthcare for those who don't get the vaccine.