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[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Even right wing figures such as the Koch brothers have been criticized for this.

But they are not used by bigots to spout of antisemitism under the guise of trashing a rich financier of political causes.

which I would think a self-professed Communist would have some sympathy for.

Flairs are to be taken with a grain of salt.

I think you are bordering on saying that anyone who criticizes a person who happens to be Jewish is automatically a bigot.

Nope, I am speaking strictly about George Soros. George Soros is code for Jews, which is why people love to accuse Soros of being responsible for everything wrong with the world. Jews are the ones typically accused of being responsible for everything wrong with the world. If someone wants to trash an asshole like Mike Bloomberg who is Jewish, they wont hear anything about antisemitism from me. Hell, I would join in on trashing that asshole. Same with trashing Netenyahu, I cant stand the guy.

I'm saying that this is painting in just as absurdly broad of strokes as racists who do the same thing

Just when it comes to Soros.

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[–]AntarchomachusAnarchist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Flairs are to be taken with a grain of salt.

So...you are representing your ideology in bad faith and just using that flair as some kind of troll?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

That's the prevailing theory.

[–]AntarchomachusAnarchist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but it seems you guys were right.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They're wrong.

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

If we're wrong and you're right, you make DAR's case against Jews which seems a little convienient. Why would you want that if you were really Jewish?

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You guys would just twist whatever I say to fit your agenda. That's what you really want.

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[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No, I don't buy anything wholesale. I am not a zealot.

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[–]AntarchomachusAnarchist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I guess I'd say this:

You very well be correct that Carlson is using Soros in this manner to drum up support among anti-semites.

However, whether or not that is his intent, I think it's hard to say that Carlson criticizing a billionaire that donates money to causes that he is against is out of line on a political opinion show.

Where precisely would you draw the line here, because it doesn't seem so clear to me

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Where precisely would you draw the line here, because it doesn't seem so clear to me

Carlson has a history of coded, antisemitic language and promoting white supremacist conspiracy theories. So, for someone like him, it's clear that he's using Soros to attack Jewish people.

The Anti-Defamation League is once again calling for Fox News personality Tucker Carlson's ousting.

The "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host is under fire from the organization battling antisemitism and other types of hate for his recent comments on "The Great Replacement" theory.

"It cannot be overstated enough," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt tweeted Friday. "For @TuckerCarlson, host of one of the most watched news programs in the country, to use his platform as a megaphone to spread the toxic and xenophobic 'Great Replacement' theory, is repugnant and a dangerous abuse of power."

"A reminder: 'The Great Replacement' theory and its racist and xenophobic roots have served as the inspiration for multiple mass shootings and deadly attacks," the official Twitter account for ADL shared the same day.

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[–]AntarchomachusAnarchist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Carlson has a history of coded, antisemitic language and promoting white supremacist conspiracy theories. So, for someone like him, it's clear that he's using Soros to attack Jewish people.

Fair enough, I'm no fan of Carlson, and it doesn't me terribly surprise me he would use racist talking points to attack Jewish people

But would you say his anti-semitism disqualifies him from making any criticisms of any Jewish individual whatsoever, even if that criticism is valid? Can Carlson criticize Harvey Weinstein for being a raper for example? How about the Israeli government? Because I'm still not too sure what you are saying the line should be

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But would you say his anti-semitism disqualifies him from making any criticisms of any Jewish individual whatsoever, even if that criticism is valid?

Aside from Soros, if he presents valid criticisms it will be a, "right (correct) message (criticisms), wrong messenger" situation.

Can Carlson criticize Harvey Weinstein for being a raper for example?

Yes, that would be fine because Carlson wont be spouting off some conspiracy theory that is rooted in antisemitism.

How about the Israeli government?

Yes, he would be fine unless he veers into, "the Israeli government is trying to take over the world through the banks" territory.

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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, he would be fine unless he veers into, "the Israeli government is trying to take over the world through the banks" territory.

Why? Because you say so?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't like Soros, I like Jews.

His his funding of trans lobby groups alone has been devastating for modern politics and young people.

The fact his supposedly pro democracy orgs actually spend their time pushing for hate speech legislation, which is then used to harass people the local police don't like or even shut down political opposition, just shows how misguided the man is.

And that's just a small part.

This guy obviously isn't at fault for all the world's problems but he very much has done great harm by pushing his out of touch ideologies without keeping track of the outcomes and we need be able to address and debate that without being called racist.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His his funding of trans lobby groups alone has been devastating for modern politics and young people.

That's not some wild conspiracy theory. Therefore your critiques based off of what you said is not using Soros as code for Jewish people.

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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't like Soros, I like Jews.

Same. Most of them, like most of any people.

Don't let ShalomEveryone bullshit you. He's intentionally confusing people for individuals for ideologies and trying to redefine our language.