Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

They have medicaid, Medicare, and Obama care. If we gave all medical power over to the government we would be absolutely fucked right now with forced experimental jabs. They would deny medical coverage to anyone not compliant. Thank God we haven't made that mistake yet.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Somehow, ALL European countries have handed their medical power to the government and are doing just fine.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah right, just like Australia turned over its guns and they are totally fine too. 😅

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Australia was fine, more or less - until the scamdemic.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, thats how it goes. Everything is fine until it isn't. Which is why it is so stupid when the left claims that Americans have no basis to want guns for protection from government because the current government is not tyrannical.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Truth.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only the USA has the kind of government it has. Everywhere else there is some sort of moral standard to at least APPEAR to uphold while in government. In Europe for example, tradition and moral values are rooted in a history that is literally thousands of years old. This is the reason (((they))) have focused on bringing migrants first and foremost to Europe. The people were fairly monolithic in their ways, until you brought destructively foreign hordes of "refugees". Their very nice systems are holding, for now.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Guns? What would civilians need guns for? Weapons should be very tightly controlled. The state must keep its monopoly on violence lest everything turns to chaos.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And now they have the most tyrannical government of any first world country.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They were, more or less, with decent socialized medicine that was behaving within reason - before the scamdemic.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're right about their abuses, but it's not that cut and dried.

I'm quite certain poor people needing operations would do the jab Russian roulette just to have that cancer carved out of them. This is not a solution by any means, but it illustrates how the US government is holding "healthcare" ransom - just as the Canadian government is now with this global scamdemic.