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[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

i don't think holocaust is a huge exaggeration, in that the allies have no need to exaggerate it at its discovery in '45. the allies knew from world war 1 that it's best to heal the wounds than tear your opponent apart, as france did to germany in the inter-war period. hence the marshal plan, the democratic germany PM's kneeling, the EU, etc. under this narrative it'd be best for the allies to downplay the holocaust. i think the fifties is a moment when good miraculously won over the evil.

as to our different view on history, here's what i think: vietnam turned capitalist, russia turned capitalist, the brilliant cccp scientists failed to produce a good computer that lasted til this day, americans and the west produced the backbone of the brand new computer industry by freely roaming around, really. china turned capitalist, cuba is now opening up. on the other side look at iran, north korea. all the balkan states are capitalist now. seriously the only social democracies that is genuinely good are all in northern europe.

oftentimes history is like: i planned this, then that happened, so the entire thing becomes another, totally unexpected thing. why? because history runs in parallel. a million things are happening simultaneously and you never know which ten of them is going to determine the main course of the future.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

i don't think holocaust is a huge exaggeration

Because you haven't skeptically researched it. Once you start it all becomes very clear very quickly.

in that the allies have no need to exaggerate it at its discovery in '45

Nonsense. You're sadly mistaken if you think the war was over then. The next few years saw half a million Germans executed, Nazis and civilians alike. https://saidit.net/search?q=Hellstorm Check this out, watch the Spinning Squirrel documentary I linked you previously and read this: https://infogalactic.com/info/Truther_Top_20_Counter_Points_To_The_Official_Holocaust_Story Then debate me.

It wasn't "discovered". Concentration slave camps were well known on both sides. There were no death camps. That's an exaggeration and myth that was developed post-war. ALL of Europe was in a fuel and food and typhoid crisis, along with the war. That is why you see the piles of hundreds of corpses (not millions).

The Holocaust didn't pick up mainstream propaganda attention until the 1970s. Why wait so long?

the allies

Were the victors and liars about the German underdogs led by a maniac. All government is evil. German citizens did not deserve their fate, nor did the rest of Europe and Russia, nor the rest of the world. WWI and WWII and the Balfour Declaration were all planned in the 1800s while Queen Victoria was a reclusive junkie and her son Edward was actually an effective and brilliant tyrant.

The Dresden firebombing was war crime against humanity, as were the atom bombs, and many other events of WWII. No one was punished. Of course the victors get to write history as they see fit to justify their sins and everyone else's narrative gets demonized.

i think the fifties is a moment when good miraculously won over the evil.

Nonsense. The focus of the ruling class and their evil schemes simply shifted and grew over a world suffering in post-war trauma. Wars for Korea and Vietnam were planned well in advance.

as to our different view on history

I agree. The commies have become more capitalist and the capitalists have become more communist. The result: everyone is more totalitarian (a fusion of the two) and the lockdown has exponentially accelerated the globalists totalitarian tyranny. Northern Europe seems nice from afar but I also know they are not exempt from corruption or tyranny.

oftentimes history is like: i planned this, then that happened, so the entire thing becomes another, totally unexpected thing.

Not unexpected. It's the Hegelian dialectic: thesis, antithesis, synthesis or problem, reaction, solution. If I'm a politician and want more control I let shit slide until the people demand I take more action to clamp down with more power. No one else in the world runs a scam like the government: fail harder to get an increase in pay and power.

a million things are happening simultaneously and you never know which ten of them is going to determine the main course of the future.

Yes but no. A million things are not equally important. Government is both very slow to react AND very fast. If you want something processed quickly or slowly it ultimately depends on who is driving it. The powers that should not be may be slower to respond to a natural organic authentic social movement but when they do they have all the force of the mainstream and usually come with more than enough preparation to get even the stupidest corrupt concepts pushed into the common consciousness, by brute force if necessary. This includes myths about WWII victims.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Because you haven't skeptically researched it. Once you start it all becomes very clear very quickly.

scapegoats are used throughout history. if you read memoirs like the forgotten soldier (guy sajer), you'd find that germans are quite egalitarian among themselves (sajer himself has both french and german blood but you can still feel the egalitarian kinda atmosphere between the soldiers, the german home front commoners, etc.). so the only way to rally them up for war is to find such a scapegoat. and then there's chomsky, who's stance on israel is quite well known and is much much more well-read than many history professors i think. go search holocaust on chomsky.info.

i can only respond loosely to the other comments. but basically it's like this: a bat caught a cold, or something else, and suddenly the world is a much more dangerous place for many very well-off humans. twitter and facebook happened and the russians learnt SEO and suddenly trump was president. the black swans are creeping up to every aspect of our lives.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed.

Chomsky is a limited hangout.

Most Jews are scapegoats brainwashed to believe they are victims, while their leadership (like all leadership) has disproportionate power and does evil shit with it. Some Jewish culture is problematic with their scriptures justifying deception and supremacy and wanting to enslave the goyim, but it's the Zionists, Jews or not, who are the big problem.