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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

People on the flights identified that hijackers, and then the planes were flown into buildings.

They're all allegedly dead and unverified. Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax. Further, there's conflicting stories about what actually took place on those planes.

that look exactly like older planes

Actually there's a lot of controversy about their appearance as they do NOT look exactly like the planes they're supposed to represent, including the paint jobs and bulge on the bottom.

You are being argumentative for the sake of it. Why not leave this forum and go back where you came from?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

They're all allegedly dead and unverified.

So why have a fake plane if you're just going to kill everyone on the real one? Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to use the real one.

Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax.

Link please.

including the paint jobs and bulge on the bottom.

Okay, you're claiming the fuselage was modified on the bottom? That's a big job mate. You're going to have to come up with where it was done before you're going to pick up anything approaching plausibility.

You are being argumentative for the sake of it.

There's a lot deep conspiracy theory bullshit posted here as if its plausible. When most people would say that it's not even rational.

Why not leave this forum and go back where you came from?

Do common, rational points of view offend you?

Perhaps a public forum isn't the place for you. One of the things about them is you'll get a variety of people discussing things.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

So why have a fake plane if you're just going to kill everyone on the real one? Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to use the real one.

I don't pretend to have all the information, including the thoughts and reasoning of the criminal minds. There is a lot of speculation about the passengers, if they even existed, etc.

Inversely: So why NOT have a fake plane? The drone would be sure not to have human error or last minute cowardice from carrying out their evil intentions.

Also related: There is only one single private airport in North America (perhaps the world) with very special privileges and circumstances. It happens to be the one that at least 2 "hijacked" planes conveniently flew directly over. I forget the actual details but perhaps /u/Jesus can recall what my recollections are mangling.

Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax.

Link please.

Get off your ass and do your own research. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=9%2F11+hijacked+plane+phone+call+hoax

Okay, you're claiming the fuselage was modified on the bottom? That's a big job mate. You're going to have to come up with where it was done before you're going to pick up anything approaching plausibility.

I'm not claiming it. Many folks who are experts are. I don't have to prove anything to you. Do your own research.

There's a lot deep conspiracy theory bullshit posted here as if its plausible.

These folks know MUCH MORE than most plebs do, including you, who just consume the bullshit corporate media that is shoved down their throats. The obesity crisis is a physical reflection and illustrative of the mental health and knowledgeable awareness of most of the sheeple citizenry.

When you actually investigate deeper you'll find most of what's purported on the surface is bullshit. Our world under authority is fundamentally structured on rigged systems and lies so the masses don't organize and revolt at their unfair exploitation.

Do common, rational points of view offend you?

Most common views are not based in rationality. I don't give nor take offense. I don't tolerate fools, timesucks, or inauthenticity. If you are seriously here to learn by challenging your worldview then I can applaud that and hope your worldview paradigm shift isn't too painful. But you don't come across as very genuine being a perpetual skeptic simply repeating status quo corporate media nonsense.

Perhaps a public forum isn't the place for you.

You are a Saiditter for 1 month. I've been here over 2.5 years. You don't know me. You seem like a disinfo shill and timesuck with aims to demotivate. You are not new or unique, nor do you phase me in the least. 95% of my responses are for those who read these discussions. If you get anything out of this then great.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

I don't pretend to have all the information, including the thoughts and reasoning of the criminal minds. There is a lot of speculation about the passengers, if they even existed, etc.

If you don't pretend to have all the information, one what basis do you pretend to know that the planes weren't hijacked?

Inversely: So why NOT have a fake plane?

Because the technology would have to be bespoke, and therefore expensive, and full of errors. (Unless you've got the details of the testing and development of the technolgoy.

Because there's no reason to have a fake plane.

Because getting a fake plane to the airport would require massive falsification of records.

The drone would be sure not to have human error or last minute cowardice from carrying out their evil intentions.

The cost effectiveness of a box-cutter and using an existing plane is the key. A box cutter is only about a buck. A plane is over a hundred million bucks.

Also related: There is only one single private airport in North America (perhaps the world) with very special privileges and circumstances.

Nope. There's over 4000: https://blog.privatefly.com/10-top-private-jet-airports-in-the-usa

It happens to be the one that at least 2 "hijacked" planes conveniently flew directly over.

They probably flew over a house too. And a tree. Flying over things doesn't prevent hijacking.

Get off your ass and do your own research.

This from the person who just claimed that there's only one private airport in north america.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=9%2F11+hijacked+plane+phone+call+hoax

Nothing there about people involved warning that it was a hoax. Are you sure you're not misremembering that?

I'm not claiming it.

Good. We agree on that point then.

Many folks who are experts are.

So long as we both agree that these experts are wrong, then I don't care whether we disagree that these experts exist.

I don't have to prove anything to you. Do your own research.

Fine. Let me tell you what the results of that research is: The planes were Hijacked by mostly Saudis, and flown into buildings.

Done.

These folks know MUCH MORE than most plebs do, including you

No, they're just anomaly hunting, and reaching absolutely implausible explanations.

You are a Saiditter for 1 month. I've been here over 2.5 years.

Nevertheless, if you're not interested in the views of public people, I don't think you're best in a public forum.

You are not new or unique, nor do you phase me in the least.

And yet you've asked me to leave the forum. If you're not phased in the least why would you prefer if I didn't post here?

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Nobody cares what you think. But I'll give you credit for being persistent. Just doin your job eh, mate?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Just trying to add some rationality to the world.

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You must be confused, because the only thing you bring to the conversation is propaganda, misinformation and disinformation. But you are just doing your job, right mate?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ah, the background dribbling of Bob. No information. No rationale. But he gets overly excited and just has to post anyway.

Have you tried taking your hand off your dick for a few minutes and try to add something to the conversation? I mean it must be tricky with all those extra fingers, but with focus you may be able to add something to a conversation.

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You take some time off, shithead? 6 days for a response? Too busy getting your mudhole drilled by your boyfriend eh? You're fucking bush league, junior. You are sub human trash. You should do yourself and the world a favor and go drink a nice big cup of bleach.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hahahaha!

You're so funny when you're masturbating to hard you need to interact, but you can't think of anything of any content.

Keep puffing, you cum-stinking, pink faced, drool puddle, it's hilarious.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Wasn't an anomaly. They were drones and I explain this in the switched tail number and UA93 flying well after its alleged crash which Pilots at pilotsfor9/11 truth have proven.

Also, Zionists rigged the towers with explosives and blew them to smithereens to start the Yinon war on terror. It wasn't Saudis, muslims or Catholic Jesuits... Zionists in high positions of power orchestrated 9/11 and then situated themselves into all the key positions to cover it up. Trump was one player in this conspiracy.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

They were drones

Right. But that lacks any plausibility, because there's nowhere these drones could have been made or tested.

Also, Zionists rigged the towers with explosives and blew them to smithereens to start the Yinon war on terror.

That's ridiculous. You can't just rig a tower with explosives. People would ask: Why are you rigging this tower with all those explosives?

And they were struck by planes, not explosives. I watched live footage of the second hit on the WTC. It was a plane.

It wasn't Saudis.

Yes it was. They know their names. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There were passener jet drones already being tested all the way back in the 70's.


Secondly, I gave you all the infomation on how you could easily rig a tower through the central elevators. Even the architect of the twin towers admits this. It was in the links I sent you which you obviously did not read. They rigged the towers and you can clearly see this in the destruction of inner core streamlining down the building every other floor. Many firefighters there and demolition experts have stated that they were demolitions.

Just read the link I sent you about how they rigged the towers.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

There were passener jet drones already being tested all the way back in the 70's.

Okay. Now when you go and look for that, you find not yet, but soon maybe. PILOTLESS PLANES COULD BE POSSIBLE BY 2025.

So you understand why I'm skeptical. So if you have any information about where they've been manufactured and who has been testing them, and how they got one to the airports from which the hijacked planes too off, you should show me.

Because, what you're saying doesn't line up with where the technology is at now.

Secondly, I gave you all the infomation on how you could easily rig a tower through the central elevators.

The wiki page notes:

Preparing a building for a controlled demolition takes considerable time and effort. The tower walls would have had to be opened on dozens of floors. Thousands of pounds of explosives, fuses and ignition mechanisms would need to be sneaked past security and placed in the towers without the tens of thousands of people working in the World Trade Center noticing.

Do you agree with that?

Even the architect of the twin towers admits this.

When did he admit this? Minoru Yamasaki died in 1986.

Many firefighters there and demolition experts have stated that they were demolitions.

Many engineers have stated that they were a fire-induced, gravity-driven collapse. Who are many demolition experts in this case?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 trurh is a great place to start.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Preparing a building for a controlled demolition takes considerable time and effort. The tower walls would have had to be opened on dozens of floors. Thousands of pounds of explosives, fuses and ignition mechanisms would need to be sneaked past security and placed in the towers without the tens of thousands of people working in the World Trade Center noticing.

Do you agree with that?

Even the architect of the twin towers admits this.

When did he admit this? Minoru Yamasaki died in 1986.

Many firefighters there and demolition experts have stated that they were demolitions.

Many engineers have stated that they were a fire-induced, gravity-driven collapse. Who are many demolition experts in this case?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Stop linking Zionist wikipedia started by a cum porn peddling degenerate. Half the hijackers are alive today.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm not linking to Zionist Wikipedia. I'm linking to community built wikipedia. It's maintained by everyone.

Half the hijackers are alive today.

Are they. Which ones?

Where are they working?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lots of people have the same name. The existence of these people doesn't imply that the hijackers are alive.