How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third-Party ‘Fact-Checkers’

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I appreciate the analysis. Perhaps another way of explaining the fact-checkers is that they offer a service that helps people who want the information. Though most people do indeed make up their own minds about what they read, some of these people will want more information on the background of a subject or its meaning. The other problem is critical thinking, which is what disinformation and misinformation website try to challenge, especially by politicizing everything, and thereby creating emotional engagement, rather than factual engagement. I think the lack of fact-checking websites are not dangerous to people who don't like them, and especially not to people who find them useful, even if - as you note - there are problems with some of their approaches.

So I plan to study at least one of the disinformation websites each day, and leave the log at /s/ShitpostsNews . I am not sure if it will return to /s/all, because it was spammed by 88 on its first day (with lots of votes for 4 MSM sites), and that seemed to annoy M7. Some of my favorites are: Breitbart, newsbusters, racewar.news, zerohedge, WSJ, bitchute, jpost, thegloriousamerican, OANN, brighteon, trunews, newspunch, newswars, notthebee, dailymail.co.uk, reclaimthenet.org, legalinsurrection, bigleaguepolitics, pjmedia, theintercept, satanslibrary.org, countere, planet-today, and fff.org.

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Some of my favorites are: Breitbart, newsbusters, racewar.news, zerohedge, WSJ, bitchute, jpost, thegloriousamerican, OANN, brighteon, trunews, newspunch, newswars, notthebee, dailymail.co.uk, reclaimthenet.org, legalinsurrection, bigleaguepolitics, pjmedia, theintercept, satanslibrary.org, countere, planet-today, and fff.org.

This is why when I read comments, I very rarely read yours anymore. What you have just listed is basically "sites who present the opposite view to your own". Meanwhile, when you craft your responses, the sources you use to support your points are always equally predictable. You have defined "sources" as "information", which is to say that if it comes from the wrong source, it is by definition "disinformation", and vice versa. There is no value in telling people who disagree with you to read sources that will simply repeat what you are saying.

What would be more interesting and productive - and I cannot think of an example where you do this - would be if you found examples from the sources with which you disagree saying things you agree with. The way you are going about it is not going to change minds; it is simply wasting the time of any who choose to engage. Perhaps, of course, that is precisely the point, in which case I confess you have just wasted precisely the amount of my time I have spent writing this response. Congratulations.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I just have him blocked, he too retarded.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not that simple. It's not about what I like or don't like. I study propaganda. At /s/ShitpostNews there are two far left propaganda sites, and a number of others. This is not about me or you. There is no need to personalize it as if we are all narcissists and want to seek only what we like. If you want to address that, then you can focus on a social psychology study. My interest is political influence, especially by the 1% against the 99%, particularly with regard to propaganda websites that spread disinformation and misinformation. Ths websites listed above are part of the study.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps, of course, that is precisely the point, in which case I confess you have just wasted precisely the amount of my time I have spent writing this response.

He's a forum sliding shill.

He mostly does it in the comments though.