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[–]america_first_1776 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

Explain to me why you shouldn't deal with leftists that way.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

Which leftists?

Obviously the insane Corporate SJW Dems don't deserve any respect but you also LOSE respect when you act like an asstroll and call people names, especially when it's so fucking obvious.

But there's also the moderate left, the Old-Left (antiwar, anticorruption, antipollution, fairness, healthcare, unions, worker coops, etc), and the centrists who lean left.

The rational left are actually the silent majority of lefties. Most people don't colour their hair puke green. Most people can have discussions on issues and be persuaded to change their minds. That's who you want to win to your side - or at least bring to center away from the extremists.

Also you're confusing Marxists with Totalitarian Communists as the Zionist want you to. Learn a bit about Marxism first before you use the word again.

[–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You know which leftists I was referring to. The ones that tried to start a riot in that peaceful Oregon suburb. You tried to change the topic.

The rational left are actually the silent majority of lefties.

According to opinion polls, the vast majority of those identifying as left oppose the 2nd Amendment, want unlimited mass immigration, and unironically support BLM. Though I don't have polling data on their view of racial science, the vast majority of lefties I've talked to don't believe there is such a thing as race. That idea coincides with the blank slate hypothesis that is a foundation of all Marxist philosophy. There is no "silent majority of leftists." Just because they don't dye their hair green, it doesn't mean their policies won't destroy white people.

Also you're confusing Marxists with Totalitarian Communists as the Zionist want you to. Learn a bit about Marxism first before you use the word again.

Okay, I see this debate tactic used on Saidit a lot and I'm getting tired of it. My stance is that If Totalitarian Communist --> Marxist. But you strawman my argument to make it seem like my underlying premise is If Marxist --> Totalitarian Communist. You deliberately switch the necessary and sufficient conditions of my argument, which allows you to go off on a tangent. The source you list in your reply to me is your own comment, where you continuously obfuscate the definitions of totalitarianism (which can be both Marxist and non-Marxist in nature), capitalism, and communism.

Though, I do agree with your conclusion that marxism and capitalism are two halves of the kosher sandwich.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm telling you that more people read SaidIt than just Oregon.

You need to recruit both the right and the rational left and those of us beyond the propaganda paradigm in order to shut down the insane left. You won't win many folks over, regardless of their tribal affiliations, if you act like an asstroll.

I don't give a shit about your polls or getting into a stats wars with suspect sources from any sides. Also, you are very misinformed about Marxism and his initial ideas which have been corrupted and perverted and those are what you're reacting to. You need to delve into Zionism to see who's really trying to destroy White people. If you're tired of arguing then listen, learn, and be better and clearer about your concepts. There was no strawman in my statement so either you're using more talking points or you don't know what that means. Look deeper at my informative linked comment and find more sources. I didn't switch, I added contextual information.

Back to the initial point: Behave civilly on SaidIt. Keep being an asstroll and you'll be banned. I'm warning you not threatening you as I have no power to ban anyone.

[–]america_first_1776 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I don't give a shit about your polls or getting into a stats wars with suspect sources from any sides.

Okay, so you want to base your opinion on anecdotes and not reality. Good, so I win.

You need to delve into Zionism to see who's really trying to destroy White people.

I never said that wasn't the case. I know that the Jews fund 50% of the Democrats and 25% of the GOP. I know the level of control AIPAC has over the GOP. I know the Jews are responsible for infiltrating Christian churches and funding groups like CUFI. I know their goal is to destroy the U.S. with mass immigration and by killing, enslavement, and humiliating those of European descent, then flee to their mother-ship (Israel) and enact their version of Noahide laws on the west when it falls apart.

The mass immigration and disenfranchisement of European peoples doesn't happen without the Marxist half of the Kosher sandwich though.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your reality is not a win. There are billions of realities living on Earth. And if you want to say that your tribe is right and true and their media and polls are legit - then you have already lost big time. All corporate media is corrupt as hell and even if we could come to agreement on what independent media we can both agree to trust, it would take far longer than I care to share.

Not just "the Jews". The CIA/Mossad Zionists control everyone, Dems and GOP. Yes, the Noahide stuff is a looming terror.

The mass immigration and disenfranchisement of European peoples doesn't happen without the totalitarian Communism half of the Kosher sandwich to counter the inverted-totalitarian Capitalism for their Hegelian dialectic's ultimate end goal: complete global totalitarianism, a monopoly on violence and everything else, under full spectrum dominance.

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    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

    " "private company" and "free speech is not freedom from consequences" "

    Context?

    " I know the rational left and they're cowards hiding gleefully behind the blood-thirsty SJWs that want our lives taken. "

    Complete hyperbolic nonsense. The Zionist corporatocracy is artificially promoting the insane SJWs on their "mainstream" media. No one can compete with that - otherwise this whole scamdemic would be revealed to be the fraud that it is, yet it persists among countless other lies.

    " The "rational" left don't deserve their lives. They are subhumans, if even humans, to me. "

    You say you "know the rational left" yet you're acting irrationally, so I don't think you do.

    " They never stood up for my rights or my speech. Not once in my life has a "rational" leftist defended me. Never ever. They lie while they do the opposite. "

    You really need to tune in to Jimmy Dore and others like him. If you want a list I provided many in this comment that you really should read.

    " My time on saidit made me forget how much I hated leftists but a few days on reddit made me remember who they are. "

    SaidIt is not Reddit and I hope it can move further away in similarities. Lefties are not the problem, the Zionists and their extremist SJWs and NeoCons (currently laying low before they come back).

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    Leftists are PoP (part of the problem) and I wont forgive them. The biggest problem we have is our altruism, compassion and forgiveness. Leftists do not share these traits. They're vile, evil and will gladly see me suffer at the hands of SJWs. They'll even cheer and say that it's my own fault.

    Saidit made me forget the nature of leftists but I'll do my best to not forget it again.

    "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it"
    This is the "rational" left and in my experience they're not merely passively accepting it but cheering it on.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

    Those who buy into the Left and/or Right are the entire problem. I have compassion for them because I was not always free of the brainwashing propaganda that we've all been subjected to since birth.

    You're generalizing and improperly/falsely stereotyping the "left" again. The "old-Left" was very much for "altruism, compassion and forgiveness." Anti-war, anti-pollution, lives-mattering, fair markets, unions, healthcare, etc. Now the CIA-Corporate SJW Dems have completely turned 180 on all those issues and the "old-Left" has been dynamically silenced. They still exist - just not on MSM.

    Only SJWs "will gladly see [you] suffer at the hands of SJWs" as well as some bloodthirsty MSM and social/alt-media.

    It's your own fault that you remain ignorant if you ignore the abundance of folks on SaidIt that can help free you of your left-right paradigm tribalist dogma. Time to wake up to the next level and see how people are played by these stupid politics.

    You should credit your quotes from MLK and others.

    Clearly you ignored my comment that explains why you are NOT accurately describing the "rational Left". Continue to do so and I will have to call you a liar and a shill every time I find you lying. Wake the flock up man, with truth not lies.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    The "old-Left" was very much for "altruism, compassion and forgiveness."

    No, they only said they were. They still claim to be too.

    The right has problems too but they're not leftists.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    So you're saying that not just SJWs lie but ALL of the "old-Left" are liars now. Obviously you've refused to look into anything or absorb anything I've offered.

    You are a complete ignoramus and/or a shill and a blanket liar.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    You're defending those that want me dead. I can play your game too: You're a shill and a blanket liar.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Your blanket statements about "the left" are fucking retarded. The majority of the left does not want you dead. I'd say even most of the "extremists" are posers caught up in their social virus. The ruling class on the other hand... they are all provable heartless psychopathic exploiters, and many of them think our planet is overpopulated.

    You are propagating irrational fear and hate that can lead to violence and you won't even look at the information I've provided because for some reason you need to remain in your wrong Right bubble.

    Provide proof that I'm a shill and a blanket liar or your opinion is just the weightless meaningless insult of an Alt-Right asstroll saying, "I know you are but what am I."

    [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I think you must be pretty young and unaware of how things use to be not long ago. I've always been a libertarian and never a part of the left/right paradigm. You go back 10-20 years or more and outside of the economic side of things there was a good deal of comparability with the so-called left. At the time, the left was anti-war, anti-drugwar, anti-bigotry and a very much a live and let live kind of attitude. Clearly that is no longer the case and now the right has more of a live and let live attitude.

    With that said, the opinions you have been voicing are definitely leaning away from that "live and let live" attitude and are a lot more like the bigoted "socially conservative" views that the right use to be known for.

    I have to agree with JasonCarswell. That attitude is definitely not productive and while the flavor is a little different, the results are not any different than what the antifa types are spitting out.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The SJWs want me dead so i'm sorry for not being kind to the "rational" left that gleefully accept the SJW terrorism of death.

    The thing you don't understand is that they only said they were anti-war and live and let live. They never meant it. How do I know? Because I used to believe their lies but I also remember clearly how I was always afraid of voicing my opinion around leftists. Now I know why.

    [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I definitely understood that. In the same way I understood that "republicans" weren't really economically liberal. But there is a leaning that can be used with both parties. The truth is that most people are more idealistic in their heads than they are with their actions. That can be used. Don't forget that they are sheep. Be a better shepherd.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    It's a hard pill to swallow because you very likely have leftist friends or even family but this quote speaks the truth:
    "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    That is profound truth regardless of who said it.
    Looks like a fake MLK quote: https://DuckDuckGo.com/?q=In+the+end%2C+we+will+remember+not+the+words+of+our+enemies%2C+but+the+silence+of+our+friends

    The silence is deafening, but complicity from the pod-people might be worse.
    /s/Terminology/comments/5kgo/hatesqueal_the_panicked_noise_fellow_citizens/

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Agreed, we need to come up with terms. It's a magical thing to do and broadens the horisont of thought

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    You're welcome to share extand terms or make new ones in /s/Terminology/.

    One rule: Always note when a term is made up or slang.

    Hopefully some of these may catch on. We need more ways to describe the complex and ever-changing world around us. Especially when there are misinfo agents intentionally fucking shit up. Literally doesn't even mean literally anymore.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    No, I will not contribute or work with someone who calls me ignoramus and a blanket liar.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You bring that on yourself.