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[–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Why bring religion into it?

Because that's at the core of the counter-argument against gay marriage.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And that's why it's a losing argument. Believing in and invisible imaginary creator judge is irrational.

God is either all powerful and doesn't give a shit or he cares and is impotent. That is the Epicurean Paradox.

http://en.atheismfacts.org/epicurean-paradox.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus#Epicurean_paradox

[–]insta 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't agree with it either, I'm just saying that's their argument. Also, nobody is convinced by you labelling their argument a "fallacy" or a "paradox". That shit might work in academic circles but nobody is swayed by that in reality. Almost everything that leaves a politicans mouth is some sort of fallacy and nobody gives a shit.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't come up with the paradox, but I wish I had.

God is another social virus dogma for control, based on nothing but nonsense built up into tradition. In reality half of everyone is stupider than average. It may work on many of them, but for the rational it doesn't. Natural Law on the other hand is rational and a solid foundation upon which we can build morality and ethics. Mark Passio presents it well but someone needs to make it clear, simple, to the point, and glossy for the normies.

Yes, politics is more dogma and blind faith. I wholeheartedly agree with you that virtually everything Machiavellians say is manipulation and/or flat out deception.