JK Rowling claims society is on brink of 'medical scandal' over transgender issues

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[–]ISaidWhatISaid 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Stallone is an awesome actor but this topic has nothing to do with that. These people we're talking about here are not taking these drugs for endurance but for misguided and often delusional vanity reasons. Others are taking them because estrogen is considered the new "chemsex" drug. The latter category are outright drug addicts plain and simple, but even they are validated and enabled by the online trans community.

"I know this very personally, as I have been an athlete, around athletes, and coaching athletes for 20 years in total"

Ergo, you are not an impartial neutral observer. You have a vested personal interest and profit-motive in continuing the steroid industry. Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest.

"If you don't, or you are a total idiot, then yes you can fuck yourself up with them."

What you don't seem to understand is that modern medicine has to anticipate the fact that "total idiots" are going to take their drugs, and have to build safeguards against that. There are no safgeguards anymore because people are transitioning under an informed consent model. They are literally self-diagnosing and ordering drugs on their own from sketchy darkweb sites, and this destructive and dangerous practice is openly encouraged and promoted by the online trans community. This form of self-diagnosis and self-medication is in no way comparable to professional athletes that have to undergo medical check-ups and doping-tests to even be allowed to compete.

Just because you read the word "steroid", don't assume it's about you and what you do. It's not.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am not an athlete anymore and have quit training and coaching, so no conflict of interest, only vast experience.

The "steroids" topic was put in here regarding ATHLETES using ANABOLICS. I was pointing out the vast difference between athletes correctly using anabolics and the very many other types of drugs and uses that are comprised in the "steroids" moniker. Which is still often the use for the word "steroids" although they are also used for corticoids. Estrogen, progesterone and their derivatives are also technically steroids but nobody's going to brag about "being on steroids" for taking progesterone.

So you are quite right that "these people" (OK we're talking about trannies transitioning now, not ATHLETES using hormones for performance, totally different topic) are fucking themselves up. But that's not what I was replying to. I was replying to the guy conflating athletes and trannies as one thing, and here you accuse me of doing the same. Sigh. Read the thread entirely.

[–]Riothamus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You haven't read the thread correctly at all. I wasn't conflating athletes with trans people. I was remarking on how it wasn't controversial to point out it was a bad idea for women to take cross-sex hormones 20 years ago yet today doctors prescribe them to teenage girls.

You just have a weird white knight fixation on steroids and it clouds your ability to reason. The East German women's Olympic teams aren't doing too well healthwise these days, either.