Liberals Worried That Without Cancel Culture They'd Actually Have To Defend Their Ideas

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[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Their ideas are indefensible. The only way the left wins any argument is censorship. If they can't censor, they jump ship. If they engage in good faith debate, they are eventually converted. It's why every uncensored space becomes over time increasingly right wing until there are no other voices left willing to debate. Doesn't mean they'll all end up third position, but they'll at least end up realizing 3 key things; all stemming from biology.

  • Forced diversity makes for unstable shitty societies
  • Ethnic groups are like dog breeds. On average some can jump higher than others, some are smarter than others, and some are more aggressive. If you breed them all into a supermutt you won't end up with a better world.
  • Men and women are not the same

If someone doesn't embrace some third position politics at the very least they begin to view freedom of association with the same importance the US founders did. This is the bane of leftism, which is to force everyone into the same area and then force them to all be deferential to the most defective individuals in the lot. After all, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". The left realizes many of these people are defective (by their definition of success), at least subconsciously, but can not accept that there are biological reasons. They reject nature. Having rejected biology, all that is left as an answer is every ism (bigotry/racism/etc) you can shake a stick at.

That is not to say 'isms can't and don't exist, they certainly do - just that in a perfect egalitarian society you have vastly unequal outcomes between groups and genders because all humans are not the same. If you are to have a multicultural society, everyone must be equal under the law - but government interference should end there.

As an example, "There aren't as many women in STEM! Sexism"... No, most women aren't that interested in technical or mechanical things, they are more social. "There aren't as many black doctors! Racism"... No, in spite of many advantages blacks have in pursing that education like SAT bonus points based on race and affirmative action placement, most aren't mentally equipped to be doctors, and aren't interested often even when they are.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm a half Jew. The other half is anglo Germanic.

This makes me, by any coherent genetic definition, White ... at least as White as the average Italian is. However, a lot of folks don't see it that way. Whatever, that's cool.

I actually support your ability to freely choose not to associate with me. Hell if you want to secede and make your own ethnostate that excludes me that's fine. Just don't outright evict me from where I'm at and we good.

If you put in "freedom of association" terms, I think that could go a long way to convincing normies to give you some space. If you put it in imperialistic "take over everything" terms, that's gonna turn a lot of general public off because ... most people don't want to see all non Whites (and in my case ... even some Whites) thrown out of the only nation/home they've known.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'd say the only hope of things not ending in oceans of blood is somehow returning to mainstream acceptance of ethnic biodiversity and sexual dimorphism as it relates to the brain and emotions. Until that occurs we have no foundation for a just society; as every time a 70 IQ inbred goat herder or housewife from the third world isn't successful in the West, it must be because those awful ists' and isms were holding them back. This flies in the face of all common sense, but it's still accepted dogma. No sane society would willingly accept such people to begin with, because they have nothing to offer.

I don't see that happening unfortunately / we're too far down the rabbit hole of insanity and hubris. Also, it's not like you can deport these people once they're here. In the US currently, only white, jewish, and asian men are net tax contributors. Everyone else is a tax burden. The average black american costs the country upwards of 700k over their lifetime. Offering them 500k to renounce citizenship and move elsewhere would result in savings. Even if we got freedom of association back - I have no desire to subsidize dysgenic breeding.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wish it were politically possible to offer such a deal. If even half took it, we’d be better off.

I think they would better off too actually. I’m not one of those people that fully buy into the notion that black people cant create functional societies at all. Nigeria, for example, has actually done decently well for themselves. Not great, but not an unmitigated disaster ... at least not most of the time. Don’t get me wrong, I think the lower IQ is at least partly genetic for blacks, but not everything they touch turns to shit. Especially when they form nuclear family units and don’t have another race to blame their problems on.

The main reason I prefer to live apart is that I just can’t see how black people wouldn’t resent a nation that once enslaved them, especially with a media that seems hell bent on stoking this resentment. At this point, I just don’t want to deal with it. I don’t want them forcibly deported, but I’m more than happy to incentivize them to leave of their own free will.

Too bad it’s probably not politically possible.

Also: Spics are based to me. I wanna keep them. We can just live apart if need be in my anarcho “no voice free exit” utopian pipe dream.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. Honestly this is much higher iq conversation than the ones on voat...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish it were politically possible to offer such a deal. If even half took it, we’d be better off.

Stuff could be organized privately if it's not popular enough to use gov't funds to do it yet.