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[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You're just projecting. Humans aren't at all violent greedy horny assholes.

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's awfully close to attacking the character lol. But I'll ignore that. Of course not ALL humans. But enough of them. And that's why laws, and police (or something like them) are necessary. My problem with libertarians is the same problem I have with communists: they're naive idealists who think that given the right circumstances, people will voluntarily always do the right thing and behave in the best interests of themselves and their society. It just isn't true. It's a denial of human nature to pretend there aren't darker elements in our species that seek power, domination, cruel pleasures.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well I'm sorry. It wasn't meant as an attack on your person, just your perspective. But I'll gladly apologize because I could've written than better. I'm not a libertarian. Most leftists are violent, greedy, horny, filthy assholes.

[–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we kind of agree with each other?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes probably.

[–]TheKsist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Romans 3:9–17 (ESV): For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10 as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; 11  no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12  All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” 13  “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” 14  “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” 15  “Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16  in their paths are ruin and misery, 17  and the way of peace they have not known.”

Yeah, we really are.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The quote doesn't support your claim.

[–]TheKsist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bruh, just because I didn't go looking for specific quotes for each adjective doesn't mean that what I posted isn't generally applicable to what you said.