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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Tbh, I followed the same little rabbit hole you basically just did - Trump was my final straw. I saw everything /u/Jesus discussed about Trump after his election, and more, including corruption and hypocrisy.

If you remember, Trump's whole campaign was very nationalistic and focused on "Making America Great Again" - focusing on the things that were bringing us down as a nation and correcting them, "draining the swamp". I've still got time to grow, and at the time of his campaign I was even younger and more gullible, but I was at the point of truly believing in my heart all elections were just political theater to give people the illusion of free-will and choice. When Trump started to run (someone who technically wasn't a politician like the rest), and wasn't afraid to say what he thought as well as was so focused on fixing "our problems", I thought I'd sit back and watch and give this thing one more chance and see what happens - in my heart I knew it was bullshit of course, but I still wanted to be proved wrong.

There's a reason Trump is called and often referred to as (one of) Israel's Best "US Presidents". Do you remember the government shut down that allegedly happened partially due to arguments over the construction of the boarder wall? Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, (who both seem to be more pro-Israeli than pro-American), were arguing during this time that the United States couldn't afford the requested budget at the time of $5.7 billion to construct the wall (in order to keep illegal immigrants as well as gang members out (which honestly did start to become a problem with MS-13 in certain states), as well as to stop drug and human trafficking, which are both big issues we have with that boarder), so the government shut-down happened. But during the government shut-down, we sent an installment of our 38 Billion "Military Foreign-Aid Deal" with Israel (which I don't understand why we even have as they are more than capable of defending themselves; Trump literally said he was going to crack down on foreign aid and focus interests on Americans.. right?), which they then used to build another wall to further protect "their land" from Palestinians. Trump also said it was time for the US to stop playing world police, and then he announced our country's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's official capital.

Why do Nancy, Chuck and other Zionist/Pro/Dual-Israeli Citizens believe walls work, and support them in Israel, but think they're medieval, stupid and a waste of money in the United States? And if we as citizens, wish to use our tax money to secure our boarders because we're noticing a negative change occurring, how come we aren't allowed to, but the government can send our money in massive amounts to foreign nations, so those countries can build walls to secure their boarders? And why does Trump say one thing, and do another? So many questions if you actually believe this is all organic and authentic.

You can even check MotherJones for more information on how much foreign aid we've given to Israel.. It's almost as if.. We're their proxy? https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/us-israel-foreign-aid-military-bankroll/

Just read this article and see how they themselves, speak about their own people like Bernie Sanders. Honestly, they may wear different colors, it may be red vs blue, but at the end of the day, they are all on the same team. It's a hard truth I've come to accept, just like the fact that we'll probably never truly understand the true scope or reasoning behind all things that go on.

But if you're looking for truth, you can only hide from the authentic truth for so long. That's why censorship is becoming such a big issue.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/u/AnarchySpeach

...but I was at the point of truly believing in my heart all elections were just political theater to give people the illusion of free-will and choice.

That they are, but you still have freedom of choice which God's Law and God the creator of the universe bestowed on all his creation. Decisions are made, and once they are made, they are final. It's sometimes a choice between truth or lies. Pursuing the good and living a rightful, righteous living or pursuing evil and living a greedy, self-righteous, undisciplined living. We all have a choice on how me must and should live. The system is corrupt to its core, but it has the facade of a working institution that merely needs your help in VOTING out the corrupted. My belief is that this is wishful thinking. When we understand it that congress is incorporated, our country a corporation, and the entire constitution annulled after the civil war based by the jurisdiction on which you have tacitly signed in agreement, i.e. a Social Security#, you'll start to see past the theater and dig to the heart of the problem which has plagued generations in the US and entire civilizations since antiquity. Despite all the technology, the US, today, a corportocracy and its usurious practices and greed is no different than the Rome upon its fall.

[To note: Look at your name on your credit card, drivers license, voting ID card, etc., do you notice something? That isn't you, the names are all in capital letters, ask yourself why that is. There's a legal justification for it.]

When Andrew Jackson said:

The paper-money system and its natural associations –monopoly and exclusive privileges– have already struck their roots too deep in the soil, and it will require all your efforts to check its further growth and to eradicate the evil. The men who profit by the abuses and desire to perpetuate them will continue to besiege the halls of legislation in the General Government as well as in the States, and will seek by every artifice to mislead and deceive the public servants. It is to yourselves that you must look for safety and the means of guarding and perpetuating your free institutions. In your hands is rightfully placed the sovereignty of the country, and to you everyone placed in authority is ultimately responsible. It is always in your power to see that the wishes of the people are carried into faithful execution, and their will, when once made known, must sooner or later be obeyed; and while the people remain, as I trust they ever will, uncorrupted and incorruptible, and continue watchful and jealous of their rights, the Government is safe, and the cause of freedom will continue to triumph over all its enemies.

But it will require steady and persevering exertions on your part to rid yourselves of the iniquities and mischiefs of the paper system and to check the spirit of monopoly and other abuses which have sprung up with it, and of which it is the main support. So many interests are united to resist all reform on this subject that you must not hope the conflict will be a short one nor success easy. My humble efforts have not been spared during my administration of the Government to restore the constitutional currency of gold and silver, and something, I trust, has been done toward the accomplishment of this most desirable object; but enough yet remains to require all your energy and perseverance. The power, however, is in your hands, and the remedy must and will be applied if you determine upon it.”

President Jackson called the attention of the people to the necessity of being vigilant, year after year; the necessity of constantly educating themselves –and not waiting for others, for cheer-leaders and heroes, to do the informing and the vigilance for them; to do the preserving their rights for them.

See, you do have a choice to fight and stand up for your rights under God, his law, or to do good and give to others or to take away from others. You do not need to participate in the current system. Will that decision change your current trajectory? Will it make it harder to live? Probably.

Politics is theater and theater is counterintelligence. It's like the burglary at the FBI which exposed their counterintelligence program (COINTELPRO). Maybe, that very narrative, that very exposure, was counterintelligence. Think about that.

It is clear that during the end of Obama's presidency, many liberals and a galore of die hard fans started to question his ethics and party. They, being staunch haters of the GOP candidates were at a confused crossroad, questioning their surroundings. Those who might have voted for Bush also had enough of his lies, knowing the neoconservative, Zionist (neo-Trotskyites) that stood behind him in the executive branch as well as their Think Tanks. These warmongers were behind Bush, and then Obama, the latter considered to be more favorable to the neoconservative agenda, as denoted by Robert Kagen. Trump is backed by these same Zionists.

Trump's campaign was reverse psychology. A psychological operation. He said all the right things and was backed by very little of the money power publicly. The elites played it out like he was against the establishment, as did he. He uses the 'fake news' term which effectively whitewashes the definition of propaganda, perception management and PsyOps, very much like how he uses the term hoax. He does this for a variety of reasons.

The first, is to confuse the commonality and meaning of words such as the ones listed above. If they are stripped of their meaning, it will be harder to pinpoint lies, and manipulation campaigns.

Two, his behavior is meant to divide and conquer; it is coordinated this way. And represents the antithesis of the smooth speaking Obama and his presidency. Of course, this excludes both of their warmongering and despicable actions, but to many, the only thing that matters is their personality and what they say. Hence, divide and conquer.

The third, is to give the media credibility! Well how would Trump do such a thing?

When you understand it that more and more people were waking up to the lies concerning 9/11 and the war in Iraq, it makes plenty of sense that they needed a punching bag like Trump. On one extremity, the liberals who started to question 9/11 and Obama's presidency as well as the left-leaning mockingbird style corporate news: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc., that they might have, oh so, worshiped as factual information during the Bush years, became curious and started to see through the illusion of the two party sham. Same too with the conservatives. Trump pulled people back into the mythics and PsyOps of the corporate media. His partisan supporters raced to Fox News, and right leaning sources, the left or those who who might have questioned the media at one time raced towards media that defended the corportocracy and elites but bashed Trump in a LIMITED HANGOUT operation, think the Anthrax cover-upper, Robert Mueller. Thus, Trump gave credibility to the media but on a partisan basis. Hence, divide and conquer.

As for the centrists, who might have saw through the charade, they sought to filter out the fluff and get to the truths that they sought-after. Of course, they, as did everyone, believed the stories that came out, like the controlled oppositions do. In another words, they believe the stories occurred, their view is that the media spins it and/or is biased.

What few know, is that many times these events, these stories are entirely fictional, false, concoctions, PsyOps; after all, they are legal under the Smith Mundt Modernization Act of 2012. The media is far more powerful than the president or anyone else. They can effectively control consciousness. Both sides are then pitted against each other whilst they fight over bias rather than complicity and the staging of PsyOps. Therefore, if you take part in this deception, you are under its spell, even if you believe both sides are biased.

But during the government shut-down, we sent an installment of our 38 Billion "Military Foreign-Aid Deal" with Israel

And do not forget the fake mass shooting on the 33rd day of the US Corporation shutdown.

Just read this article and see how they themselves, speak about their own people like Bernie Sanders. Honestly, they may wear different colors, it may be red vs blue, but at the end of the day, they are all on the same team. It's a hard truth I've come to accept, just like the fact that we'll probably never truly understand the true scope or reasoning behind all things that go on. But if you're looking for truth, you can only hide from the authentic truth for so long. That's why censorship is becoming such a big issue.

And that is the moral of the story.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

installment of our 38 Billion "Military Foreign-Aid Deal" with Israel (which I don't understand why we even have as they are more than capable of defending themselves;

To put it bluntly: We're buying an alliance and hoping it doesn't backfire. Same way a dude pays a hooker and prays they don't catch anything.

Despite the insanely high cost for something not worth a 10th of that, the U.S. has too many politicians with friends that would choose Israel over America, which has resulted in the government being unable to stop hemorrhaging money. Having Israel as a friend wouldn't be that bad. I think we can agree the price is too high right now.

It'd be like if the U.S. was sending shitloads of money to the Vatican. No Catholic politician would vote to stop that flow of money. They'd increase it. Make it worse.

Separation of Church and State is a very nice idea that fails miserably when attempted. There's a reason China's got police raiding unsanctioned basement churches. They realize the threat a foreign leader poses if it continues to have control over a growing number of the population.

At the same time I recognize the abysmal treatment the Chinese people suffer under such an abusive rule. It sucks, but I'd rather spend the $38b and keep my freedoms then attempt a religious purge of the government.

I don't have an answer for the problems this country is facing. Nor can I perceive a solution. If by some miracle we stopped giving away free money, you said it yourself:

they are more than capable of defending themselves;

We'd lose them as an ally in an instant. $38b is nothing to sniff at. The second we stop becoming a wallet for them they will ignore us, or worse, declare us an enemy. Considering the sizable portion of their faith that co-exists in American politics an outright demonization of our country over money would prove to be quite damaging to any military assets we have in the area. That would have serious ramifications that could take decades to repair, if at all.

Blind hate has to be taken out of the equation when considering the bigger picture here. We need them more than they need us and they have the political control to maintain the arrangement in their favor. There's nothing I can think of that could change it.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

An alliance? More like an infiltration.

There's nothing I can think of that could change it.

You could withold funds, ban dual citizenship in the government and erradicate central banking based on permanent public debt.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

infiltration

And make an enemy out of all of them... This seems more Pro-War than I'm comfortable with.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pro-war, that's anti-war. An isolationist policy would be beat and not fighting the Israeli governments Likudnik wars.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't exactly remove their control without fighting them...