Nancy Pelosi Shows Exactly What her Party Stands For at SOTU: Disruption and Childishness : politics

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He only dropped out because the democrats threatened to shit on him if he stayed.

You have evidence for that. Because Bernie has a long history of being a war-monger, though he was neutral on the Iraq War. He is for a two state solution abd is clearly a Zionist. Politicis in theater. Sanders is a millionaire I don't think he really cares about the American people, for he wouldn't openly shill for Hillary. I called it months before it even happened, because I saw the dialectic and then others from there who knew the ruse of elections understood it that Trump would be the winner. It doesn't really matter though, because to vote under Blacks Law is to waive your rights, GOD'S LAW, that of you being a soverign like a king. You make a contract to appoint a president for a corporation, ie, UNITED STATES corporation &c., we are not a country and until you know that you will be fooled into voting for losers who do not care about the country. Look up congress people if you don not believe me, there names are incorporated and they sit in a star chamber, meaning they do not represent WE THE PEOLE.

Bernie the shill, millionaire is still in politics, they didn't put a gun up to his political career, for he would let his supporters know such a thing, and yet he shilled for a corporatist, so hard in fact, that he got his die hard fans to vote for Clinton. How deluded do you have to believe to not see this dialectic. It happens over and over again.

They realized their fuckup, she's gonna let Bernie have his turn.

No they didn't, it was concocted intentionally.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (13 children)

Because Bernie has a long history of being a war-monger,

Not debating that. It's true, he is, but he also thinks the pointless wars don't deserve so much wasted money.

neutral on the Iraq War.

Personally, I think the start of the war was partly necessary, but it should never have escalated into the shit show it has become. I'm amazed people are still in support of continually wasting assets there.

Sanders is a millionaire

Virtually every politician is rich, or is friends with very rich friends. It's impossible to run nowadays without deep pockets somewhere.

openly shill for Hillary.

If Hillary & Bernie had both remained in the race the party would have been split. They chose Bernie (for reasons I will never understand) and it failed. They asked him to drop out. He accepted because he understood if he stayed in everything on CNN for the next decade would blame him in some bullshit way for it.

to vote under Blacks Law is to waive your rights,

You're gonna have to explain that one to me.

GOD'S LAW, that of you being a soverign like a king.

You're gonna have to explain that one to me.

we are not a country and until you know that you will be fooled into voting for losers who do not care about the country.

Sure we are. Idiots beleive the lies the media tells them, so they vote according to information they're too lazy to fact check, and boom. You get the current shit show we have today. All of it legally. Why do you think public education in this country is so shit? Gotta keep the average person stupid so they never question the stuff they're told.

they sit in a star chamber, meaning they do not represent WE THE PEOLE.

What?

for he would let his supporters know such a thing,

How could he have told his supporters? If he said one word against Hillary after dropping out the democrats would've made him the scapegoat for everything for years to come.

so hard in fact, that he got his die hard fans to vote for Clinton.

Dude didn't have a choice in the matter. He didn't want Trump, Hillary refused to drop out, and betting on an old horse failed.

How deluded do you have to believe to not see this dialectic.

Fuck you?

concocted intentionally.

You've actually lost your marbles if you honestly think the democrats and republicans conspired together to get Trump elected. You have no proof to support it.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago* (12 children)

Look up congress and STAR CHAMBER in Black's Law 4th edition. Many congressmen and congresswomen have slipped up and used this term to describe the people they serve, it's personhood, which is a corporation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

As the U.S. Supreme Court described it

"the Star Chamber has, for centuries, symbolized disregard of basic individual rights. The Star Chamber not merely allowed, but required, defendants to have counsel. The defendant's answer to an indictment was not accepted unless it was signed by counsel. When counsel refused to sign the answer, for whatever reason, the defendant was considered to have confessed."[17]

When you vote, you waive your rights to contract a president for a corporation, they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation ie the UNTIED STATES. Look up Blacks Law or even the legal term for the United States. The United States is a corporation. The state is a corporation and even your local municipality is a corporation. They even incorporate you through Social Security upon birth to serve said corporation, tricking your parents into signing your Sovereignty away. The United States became a corporation after the civil war in the 1860's. Frankfurt bankers as well sought to deestroy the republic by establishing a central bank with help from Lincoln based on debt backed bonds, which were called greenbacks. The losers who peddle the conspiracy that Lincoln was killed because he was against the moeny power, is beyond stupid, but they peddle it nevertheless to perpetuate the very system in place today. Permanent Public Debt, with high taxes on serfs, you and I, as collateral. Don't pay your property tax, then they take your home away. Hence, you don't own your home and do not have allodial title.

God's Law, which the Queen and King's abide to have allodial title. Meaning they actually own their assets and more specifically their property. They may or may not be slaves to these possession but nevertheless, they own them. The serfs did not own any property nor the citizens of England. They were not allowed allodial title. Our founders, left making it law to own property in the US based on allodial title. THis was slowly taken away from the common person when the US became a corporation, and we signed our rights away for convenience sake and ignorance.

God's Law means in broad terms allodial title. God's Law is what the United States for America, not OF, was founded on.

You've actually lost your marbles if you honestly think the democrats and republicans conspired together to get Trump elected. You have no proof to support it.

They did, the top tier of the democrats and GOP, most of them ardent Zionists and until you realize it is all about money flow, and that the democrats and republicans serve a corporation, and most of the stuff you see on TV and read in the news is political theater, you will continue to waive your rights. God bless and peace. And I hope you take the time to research. Buy Blacks Law 4th edition, read this and this:

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Tbh, I followed the same little rabbit hole you basically just did - Trump was my final straw. I saw everything /u/Jesus discussed about Trump after his election, and more, including corruption and hypocrisy.

If you remember, Trump's whole campaign was very nationalistic and focused on "Making America Great Again" - focusing on the things that were bringing us down as a nation and correcting them, "draining the swamp". I've still got time to grow, and at the time of his campaign I was even younger and more gullible, but I was at the point of truly believing in my heart all elections were just political theater to give people the illusion of free-will and choice. When Trump started to run (someone who technically wasn't a politician like the rest), and wasn't afraid to say what he thought as well as was so focused on fixing "our problems", I thought I'd sit back and watch and give this thing one more chance and see what happens - in my heart I knew it was bullshit of course, but I still wanted to be proved wrong.

There's a reason Trump is called and often referred to as (one of) Israel's Best "US Presidents". Do you remember the government shut down that allegedly happened partially due to arguments over the construction of the boarder wall? Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, (who both seem to be more pro-Israeli than pro-American), were arguing during this time that the United States couldn't afford the requested budget at the time of $5.7 billion to construct the wall (in order to keep illegal immigrants as well as gang members out (which honestly did start to become a problem with MS-13 in certain states), as well as to stop drug and human trafficking, which are both big issues we have with that boarder), so the government shut-down happened. But during the government shut-down, we sent an installment of our 38 Billion "Military Foreign-Aid Deal" with Israel (which I don't understand why we even have as they are more than capable of defending themselves; Trump literally said he was going to crack down on foreign aid and focus interests on Americans.. right?), which they then used to build another wall to further protect "their land" from Palestinians. Trump also said it was time for the US to stop playing world police, and then he announced our country's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's official capital.

Why do Nancy, Chuck and other Zionist/Pro/Dual-Israeli Citizens believe walls work, and support them in Israel, but think they're medieval, stupid and a waste of money in the United States? And if we as citizens, wish to use our tax money to secure our boarders because we're noticing a negative change occurring, how come we aren't allowed to, but the government can send our money in massive amounts to foreign nations, so those countries can build walls to secure their boarders? And why does Trump say one thing, and do another? So many questions if you actually believe this is all organic and authentic.

You can even check MotherJones for more information on how much foreign aid we've given to Israel.. It's almost as if.. We're their proxy? https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/us-israel-foreign-aid-military-bankroll/

Just read this article and see how they themselves, speak about their own people like Bernie Sanders. Honestly, they may wear different colors, it may be red vs blue, but at the end of the day, they are all on the same team. It's a hard truth I've come to accept, just like the fact that we'll probably never truly understand the true scope or reasoning behind all things that go on.

But if you're looking for truth, you can only hide from the authentic truth for so long. That's why censorship is becoming such a big issue.

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billionaires backed him

Every. Politician. Has money backing them.

You can't run for president and expect to win without a few mill at the ready. The more money, the better your odds, but that doesn't guarantee a win.

deep state and the elites lead you to what you should think and see.

How many people do you know, over the age of 35, who actively check the sources of things they read online?

How many people do you know who believe in ghosts and superstitions?

I can see the puppet strings just fine, thank you, but our disagreement comes from the number of masters controlling it all. I do not believe one council can possibly control all of this chaos. That's just insane. Technology isn't there yet. We are getting dangerously close.

Major corporations (several of them) are all in bed with each other. That's a fact if you delve into the board members and who they're friends with. I can prove enough to be suspicious.

The democrats and republicans working together to control the U.S. government? On some issues, yes. It's obvious to see, but they're not unified enough for a takeover. Virginia is proof enough that the two parties still have enough disagreements to prevent a full merger of both sides for maximum control. I can't see behind the curtain. I'm just aware of the screaming happening behind it and it sounds like they're not united (yet.)

Do I believe in a group controlling all countries? No. I fail to see enough movement of resources. Optimally, if the planet agreed, it wouldn't be that hard to turn one country into a trash heap to benefit everybody else (including themselves.)

As for my username, I believe the ability to speak unhindered, uncensored, and without fear is the last way for any formal Anarchist basis to exist. I do not believe anarchy could ever exist in a physical sense, only verbal. A pessimistic view, maybe, but that's what I believe.

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The closest anarchy could achieve into the physical would have to be the virtual. A place where people could touch, smell, hear, with all the sensations in between without ever asking permission to use ones self. SAO isn't happening for 100 years, but tactile suits aren't far away from a possibility. Virtual smells can be achieved through technology (stupid anti-vape laws delayed it, but the technology exists.) Force-feedback for hands exist. They're just too expensive for the average consumer right now ($5k per glove.)

So long as somebody can force their will onto you true anarchy cannot exist. Through virtual interfaces we have complete and absolute control over ourselves and our homes. No rape, no murder, no theft. These things cannot be removed from physical society in the real world. They can virtually.

When prices drop to something reasonable in the next 20 years expect governments to crack down. They won't want this utopia outside their control. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make advanced virtual interfaces illegal in 2040 to maintain control over us.

When people start to experience these worlds, start making new friends, and get a taste of a stress-free environment: People will hate the bullshit laws the government has been enforcing for millennia. I don't fear cops. I don't fear cops shooting me. Getting arrested doesn't scare me. The bullshit legal fees do. That is what scares the law abiding citizen. From medical bills, to taxes, to all the economic problems that really don't need to exist, and only exist to keep the poor drowning in filth.

Imagine what would happen when the poor middle class barely making ends meet can wake up everyday in a gold plated palace for a one time purchasing price. There won't be a bunch of people buying useless shit because they'll be getting all for free. Sure, you could buy the latest virtual game, but how many people Torrent stuff already? Now imagine people were torrenting everything.

Economies with either be forced to restructure, collapse, or governments will outright ban these happy machines.

To some people this is a distopian nightmare. To me, it seems the rich bought the world, and they'll finally be powerless to stop the lower classes from demanding respect.

I can accept the current dumpster fire because I know it will eventually burn itself out.

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So long as somebody can force their will onto you true anarchy cannot exist. Through virtual interfaces we have complete and absolute control over ourselves and our homes.

I think your response is a little misguided. Information generation and experience generation is the first thing that the state would adopt before it can hit the market appropriately. The first thing they would do is delimit the ability to experience sensations and constrain biology even further, this believe it or not; is already in the works right now along some corners of the authoritarian internet as well as physical society. On top of all this, the physics pertaining to virtual reality are not clear cut or conducive due to negative side effects from EMF fields that can impair glandular mechanisms.

There is still a lot of groundwork to be established before any of this could become reality but the virtual can't be the only "escape". That would be a divided reality, not unified.

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I could make a nuke in my garage if you gave me the right materials. The only thing stopping the average terrorist is the lack of restricted materials.

These arguments lack practicality though. You can't smoke some herb of your choice without a license, you can't purchase raw milk without proof that you are a farmer wanting to feed younger animals, you can't collect rain water for yourself unless you have valid reasons. Building a nuke, as cool as it sounds can't be the first thing on the list.

The rich own the physical and have the guns to protect it. They can have it. True unity will come for those of us in the machine, while the "rich" can continue to fight over shiny rocks.

They can also go fuck themselves and burn in hell. The physical doesn't belong to them- ever, no matter their dumb justifications and I'm not united in this machine :P

Edit: Hive minds can do whatever they like, but in the end; they will fall together because they were doomed from the very beginning.

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You forgot that Martial Law will be declared and Trump has unlimited power to be able to blame the other half the country for a false flag,

Hold on. What? wtf who is attacking now?

supremacist voter base

KKK, the middle left the dems don't want, and many republicans. It's more than a few klansmen with a bedsheet who voted for him. A lot of other people did it because the democrats have lost their godamn minds. Hell, if they fuckover Bernie by sticking Biden up there I'm gonna vote for Trump myself.

There is no second party

Depending on how the next 4 years go... we might actually get 3 parties after the Democrats finally split in two. The fractures have been building ever since Obama.

or a republic after this.

Dems vote for Dems. Repubs vote for Repubs. why the fuck they thought impeaching Trump when the Republicans owned the seats was a good idea is beyond me. Either way I can't say I'm surprised by the result. It's never been about "Justice" it's always about the party line. Today isn't anything new in that regard.

Haven't you learned anything from Rome?

Yeah. Worse that's gonna happen is California takes half the country in the divorce./s

Public mindset (currently) is nowhere near chopping heads off like France.

emperor king of the wurld

You're telling me that no secret service agents would quit if asked to die for the New King?

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balance of power is all but gone

You've got no proof of it.

martial law

In Virginia, maybe. Not the whole damn country.

an empire/monarchy after the event

That is the most un-American idea I have ever heard. God help him if he tries anything that stupidly dangerous.

public was conned out of a democratic republic,

You do realize people voted for those people, right? Nobody was conned out of anything. The republic still stands. Just because people vote differently than you doesn't make them the enemy.

isn't really a bipartisan issue anymore

Republican party chose Trump. Democrats chose crooked Hillary over Bernie. The American People chose to elect these morons. System isn't broke. People are just idiots.

losing that balance of power.

No. I just think you're delusional and your panic is misplaced.

atrocities being committed on massive scales,

The war crimes happening over seas? Yeah. There's a reason no president has stopped them: $

America, despite all of its wealth, relies heavily on foreign materials to make profits. Is it right to go over there and take it? No. The solution is to vote in people who agree with us. If more people think the opposite then their vote passes, ours does not, and that is how voting works. That doesn't mean "democracy has failed" it means the public, on average, likes their cheap shit and free blood money.

That doesn't make them "evil."

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Yeah, I can do the copy and paste thing as well. But I did not to keep things brief and spare people the torture of it; but let's see here...

You've got no proof of it.

Actually, I've got macro level proof of imbalances in power from an international relations perspective, on our current post-cold war paradigm in reference to an anomaly of uni-polar stability of unbalanced geopolitics. But hey, I've also got this simple reference proving somewhat relevancy to our current debacle and OP's post as well. The bottom line is that balance of power is eroding and shifting.

That is the most un-American idea I have ever heard. God help him if he tries anything that stupidly dangerous.

He doesn't have to do anything. Like I said earlier, his voter base.... And yes, the whole country would be affected.

You do realize people voted for those people, right? Nobody was conned out of anything. The republic still stands. Just because people vote differently than you doesn't make them the enemy.

Electoral college voted him in. And the elites have employed a political constructivist strategy throughout social media to inflame identity politics in order to secure certain state "assets". By which I mean, through "traditions and heritage language". I also never revealed my voting history because this argument is not about that. Quit avoiding the real issue of the conspiracy at play in divide and conquer/ purge and purchase!

Republican party chose Trump. Democrats chose crooked Hillary over Bernie. The American People chose to elect these morons. System isn't broke. People are just idiots.

Again, electoral college! but hey, Idiots have been known to break systems...

No. I just think you're delusional and your panic is misplaced.

Ohh really?

Mr. Owl how many armed revolutions have taken place throughout history when the balance of power was contested by fascist elements? Could they possibly tie into one another, as a long cluster-fuck dialogue of fallacious mistakes?

Please don't answer that. It is a rhetorical question.

America, despite all of its wealth, replies heavily on foreign materials to make profits. Is it right to go over there and take it? No. The solution is to vote in people who agree with us. If more people think the opposite then there vote passes, our does not, and that is how voting works. That doesn't mean "democracy has failed" it means the public, on average, likes their cheap shit and free blood money. That doesn't make them "evil."

Seems pretty evil to me. But hey, I'm really not anti-american because I think America is awesome. I just prefer balance in all things as opposed to hysteria. And my main point of responding to your comments is to point out the current hysteria at play which has the strong potential to devolve into blood-shed and violence due to leadership tampering. Which may also effectively render the constructivist philosophy of identity politics null due in part to its strong affiliation with cultural identity as a definition for security. Who knoes...

Anyway, have a good day. I'd like to not beat this dead horse any longer.

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