Chaos In Iowa: Thousands Of Furious Supporters Claim Iowa Caucus "Rigged" Against Bernie

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[–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"An app fails. A poll caller changes the font size on a monitor. And the Des Moines Register and Iowa Democratic Party implode."

So the counting app failed, and it gave Buttigieg the spotlight. And guess what, Buttigieg's company made the faulty caucus voting app software!

There's some very obvious corruption and collusion going on with the DNC primary process. Just like in 2016. And then they try to claim it's all ok because "it's a private company and they can do what they want."

This is how democracy dies. Two parties controlling everything, both claiming they're "private". Where's the public representation of what is supposed to be a public process?

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The citations if anyone wants: http://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

http://observer.com/2017/02/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perez-admits-democratic-primaries-rigged/

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That shows a disdain for democratic process, that the "ends" justify the "means". No wonder they've been all out smearing anyone that gets in their path.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are completely out of control lizard-brained hungry ghosts.

[–]Hellothereawesome 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"app fail" WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE THIS? I would trust murderers over them they have ZERO credibility to me......... I would never believe anything they said if their life depended on it, which it does at this point.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too true, too goddam true!

[–]Drewski 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We've seen this time and time again, from Ron Paul in 2012 to Bernie in 2016. The question is will the people rise up against this clearly corrupt system?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They did in 2016, and they protested at the DNC primaries final and then the DNC locked all the protesting Bernie delegates out of the convention center...

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

4 more years for trump coming

huge crash coming during his second term. Wish this wasn't so easy to predict.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gods help us.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the DNC locked all the protesting Bernie delegates out of the convention center...

And why was this never addressed in the intervening years? I mean it sorta was, and the answer was "DNC is a private organization, they can do what they want"--so why wasn't that addressed? Whyy do we all just go to sleep for four years, only wake up to the same (only more sleezy and more entrenched) nightmare?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The other comment I wrote here really addresses this point as well: https://saidit.net/s/politics/comments/2hus/chaos_in_iowa_thousands_of_furious_supporters/8dhb

Basically, dissent from the status quo is being successfully quashed.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

NO WAY in hell Buttigieg is ahead. No one in America is excited about this big dumb interloper. They are insane to think they can pull this bullshit.

If only Bernie had used this four years to clean up the DNC and the voting system. Rather than protect his perceived need to have the party as it is now back him, imagine the popular support (droves I tell ya!) if he had used this time to achieve ranked voting, an uncorrupt DNC, clear and easy voting, dumping the stupid caucus arging and coin-tossing (coin tossing! ffs!).

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

NO WAY in hell Buttigieg is ahead.

Agreed, the guy is obviously rigging it for himself, or trying to and failing because he's being way too obvious about it.

Which makes me wonder if he's actually just playing a part for someone else with more power than him...

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This does seem like the most likely scenario.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah because the whole fiasco basically ended up taking the spotlight off of bernie, who would've probably had it otherwise.

Instead the spotlight is on this no-name. Seems like a generated distraction, possibly by the Warren camp or Biden camp, or their backers. They benefited the most, because this buys them a little time and kills some momentum of their biggest opponent, Bernie.

Especially when you consider the DNC (from what I understand) is majority financially owned by Clinton and co, who clearly back Warren or Biden over Bernie. So they're able to use the DNC as an apparatus to cover up things like what happened in Iowa. Rather than the DNC trying to clear these things up and investigate them, as one would expect to be the case if they were truly public servants. Very sad for our democracy, especially when the RNC is equally as corrupt.

How can we have a public election when both parties are privately owned and operated, and seem to have no accountability? These are serious problems that need addressed, or else our democracy will continue to fail to represent the intent of the people of the US, and instead will more and more represent the interests of corporations and billionaires.

This should be the national conversation on every news channel right now. Instead, they focus on distractions, because they are similarly owned by those same big-money interests.

We're in kind of a bad spot right now, and the only silver lining is I hope that people are able to see it clearly because it's so blatant. Only when a problem this big is publicly recognized, can it then be addressed and fixed.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

SO well said. Magnora2020.