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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are successful social democracies. In fact, they're some of the best countries in the world. Social security is socialism. Roads are socialism.

However communism always fails. If the meme said communism, I'd agree 100%, because communism always turns in to authoritarianism.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Social security is socialism. Roads are socialism.

Sigh. No. Socialism is government control of the means of production.

This "roads are socialism" argument is a desperate attempt by socialists to pin something positive to their failed ideology.

Scandinavia is not democratic socialism, as much as Bernie Sanders sold many young, naive millennials with that talking point. This was something that was rebuked by Denmark's PM himself. In the Scandinavian countries the means of production are primarily owned by private individuals, not the community or the government, and resources are allocated to their respective uses by the market, not government or community planning. Scandinavian countries are highly capitalist, and incredibly high on the Economic Freedom Index. Entrepreneurship and free markets are fervently embraced, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman, and there are no minimum wage laws in Sweden or Norway or Denmark. What Nordic countries practice is the Nordic Model, something that is possible there because of their tiny homogenous populations and high natural resources to support the taxation need for the welfare programs. In fact the social success of the Scandinavian countries predate this model, with several studies showing that the greatest decrease in income inequality there came prior to the implementation of the big welfare state.

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

communism always turns in to authoritarianism.

What do you mean by that? I was under the impression that authoritarian communism just happened to be the only form of communism that has "worked" (but only in being stable rather than achieving the goal) so far.