Eight children from a single school are hospitalised after using e-cigarettes

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[–]KyleIsThisTall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to get all natural vegetable oil e-liquid from a local organic tobacco farm when these things first came to market around 2009.

Now they use these salt based liquids that are made somewhere in east Asia and you have no idea about the quality control.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Standard authoritarian response...make them double illegal....even though black market vapes are likely the ones over stuffed with nicotine, contaminated with cheap dangerous chemicals, possibly laced with fent, and the most dangerous.

Instead, they should ask why kids are so unhappy that they feel the need for a vice, despite knowing it is addictive and dangerous.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They just need to stop caring so much about kids smoking. Make it illegal for kids to buy cigarettes and tell them it's bad for them obviously. Accept that teenagers are gonna do it anyway, and when you catch them with cigarettes just confiscate them and call their parents and let the parents handle it.

They keep going on the warpath against tobacco which is bad for you but is relatively benign compared to other stuff. So naturally people keep seeking out alternatives that are worse.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same happened during the rise of legal highs and 'research chemicals' around 2010-2014. The more substances made illegal, the more hazardous they became and more extreme. It started out as cathinknea, soon enough it was diazopines, psychedelics, dissociatives and opioids. They're better off picking something to offer in moderation and be done with it, people seek more than just alcohol and caffeine, it's human nature.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can definitely relate to this sentiment. I briefly went to an alternative school, where we got a "smoke break" after lunch and a pass for an extra smoke break if you came to school all week.

Yet, this around 30 years ago, and was a 3 class special school for the "bad kids," utilizing a building next to a bar. (Where, we'd steel cases of beer off the beer truck deliveries after lunch and hide them under the dumpster, to grab when school got out.)

Normal schools are responsible for the student's health and well being. Their liabilities would never allow them to permit smoking or some other risky things. (You'd never realize this with the g-string lap-dances from cross-dresser groomer events they host now days.)

[–]KyleIsThisTall 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably all the degenerate perversion grooming.

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

how many of these are self-filled where the quality of obtained materials might be at issue?