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[–]Clownfall 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It was fine when it was a tiny minority of adults with gender dysphoria. 'This is the best treatment we have for a nasty mental health condition'.

Now it's 'Let's recruit every child we can! Raise our ugly culture war flag to mark our captured territory! Encourage the middle-age cross-dressers to join the fun! Gender is a choice, biology isn't real! Now let's go set some world records in womens sport, get our faces on beer cans, and jiggle our naked tits at the White House, then what next? How about twerking in front of toddlers then going out and silence down some middle-aged feminists! Then go to work (in a school) the next day wearing size Z prosthetic boobs and telling the kids that biology is a lie! Isn't this all simply euphoric!"

[–]Alienhunter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sort of fine before, there weren't many and they didn't have any social power to cause problems, but the underlying philosophies behind it have always been a bit crazy as of course, you need to be somewhat crazy anyway to want to change your gender and go through with it.

Some of the better adjusted ones that don't deny reality are largely harmless. They just do what they want to themselves and don't care about what other people think about it, but they also typically don't start demanding access to kids or female spaces either.

Course if you've been poking around online you've seen loads of the crazy ones for years. Usually for someone to feel like they are the wrong gender but not also have some kind of bodily dismorphia it comes with a whole slew of stereotypes about how women are supposed to act and the like beyond simply wanting to wear a dress.

If that was the end of it nobody would be complaining except very hardline religious conservatives.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Around 15 years ago, I was working at a domestic violence shelter, and management occasionally brought in speakers for the employees and volunteers. This time they brought in a transwomen to speak, and his rhetoric was pretty much full of the insane rantings that we hear from TRAs today. Even back then, it left me with a very unsettled feeling, and that was my first real interaction with a transwoman. Even the management apologized to us afterwards, I guess they didn't vet him well enough?

So I guess I'm not surprised they're still saying these things, but I am surprised they've been able to gain so much power.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The rhetoric from activists has long been awful. I think COVID and the moving of lots of social interaction to the internet really fueled this recent movement, that and the LGBT activist machine needed a new cause.

Activists I think are the issue, most trans people I've been aquatinted with IRL were often out seeking attention in socially transgressive ways, I think because they were taking out their own inability to accept themselves on society at large, however I've been aquatinted with a couple of people whom I suspect are trans but they are otherwise avoidant of attention and are clearly not activists.

I think it's still a mental illness regardless but there's far less problems socially tolerating someone who wishes simply to be left alone and ignored vs someone who is constantly seeking the social validation of others by transgressing social norms. I think there's an exhibitionist trend in the modern expression here and they get off on negative attention.