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[–]StillLessons[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Here's an idea...

This disease is clearly spreading through sexual contact. It is behaving (at least in this newer strain) essentially as an STD. How about, I don't know, maybe people stop the crazy sex for a bit? That the people "pushing the envelope sexually" cannot even consider this simple solution (I've seen it suggested NOWHERE in the MSM) says a lot about them; they are addicted to self-destructive behavior. Instead, you have governments in the US and Canada suggesting people use "glory holes" to satisfy themselves with minimal contact. That someone even thought to write that as a "solution" tells us all we need to know.

Just a thought.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree with you, but there are two forces in play right now. One of them is the force you allude to: gay men failing to take responsibility for their sexual behavior and, additionally, shunning gay men who want to promote the idea of sexual responsibility in gay male culture (I have experienced this). But on the other hand you have a contingent of straight people who will blame gay people no matter what. In particular, you will find people who oppose same-sex marriage -- a generally stabilizing force (even though imperfect) -- out of pure spite. I find it particularly amusing that certain people on this platform allude to their own less-than-stellar sexual morals as straight men, yet still condemn gay men. Flaming hypocrites.

Anyway, we're all doomed. Monkeypox will lead to lockdowns for everybody (whether warranted or not) and gay men will get left holding all the blame.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe monkeypox won’t lead to lockdowns. At least not globally. But I’m too optimistic. Most people are dumb, and they can vote. I can definitely see gay men on Reddit calling for Monkeypox lockdowns and vaccine mandates, and in the same breath, cry when a country criminalises homosexuality because of Monkeypox. It will be like the AIDS crisis all over again. And I won’t have any sympathy whatsoever for the gay men who die from this.

I know it’s a horrible thing to type. But that’s how I feel. A lot of gay men are praising Fauci, the same guy who held back research on medication that would have mitigated the effects of aids and claimed that you could get aids from a toilet seat. If this is how a lot of gay people are, I cannot blame homophobic people for being homophobic. I really can’t. And I’m gay. And in case you are wondering, no, I am not one bit ashamed of being gay whatsoever. I’m happy being gay, and I wouldn’t change it for the world. But a lot of gay men are really dumb, so it’s hard for me to feel sorry for them when they bring a lot of their problems upon themselves.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can definitely see gay men on Reddit calling for Monkeypox lockdowns and vaccine mandates, and in the same breath, cry when a country criminalises homosexuality because of Monkeypox.

Yes I see the same thing. This will never not be both funny and appalling at the same time. They want lockdowns for all but still lash out in rage if you curtail their cock-carousel for even one minute.

If this is how a lot of gay people are, I cannot blame homophobic people for being homophobic. I really can’t. And I’m gay.

Here's the problem: truly homo-hating people will hate you no matter how you behave. There's a lot of people who hate the promiscuity but are otherwise begrudgingly fine with gay men like you and me who understand the physical and emotional importance of chastity/monogamy, and I have no problem with them (even their begrudging tolerance as opposed to the wild enthusiasm demanded by the LGBTQ+ crowd). But there are people who have their own sexual continence issues who still hate you for being gay no matter what you do or do not do. They can't see their own hypocrisy, which is almost as bad as the gay guys you and I see on Reddit. Almost.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’re right. Most homophobic people can never be pleased. And those irresponsible gay men are giving these homophobes ammunition.