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[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

The police procedure and policy that they had just trained for is to engage the shooter to prevent mass casualties

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

^ this. There was a mass shooter drill at the local high school days before this event. Police, as well as all other adults, should prize the lives of innocent children over their own . . . especially when the cops have bulletproof armor.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Bulletproof armour? You actually believe cops have armour that proects against rifle bullets. Wow.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They were loitering in the hallway with ballistic shields that would stop a proper .30-06 and the dude had only a .223. They could have gone in and taken him sooner, if they only would.

We know this is the case, because eventually they went in and got him.

If they hadn't gone in and finally done the job, it would be schrodinger's dynamic entry, but they did. That it worked eventually says it would have worked before more children died.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They were loitering in the hallway with ballistic shields that would stop a proper .30-06

No they did not. They had Level IIIA shields. They are rated for pistol rounds.

That it worked eventually says it would have worked before more children died.

No it does not. You have no idea what the police had learned by that time that they didn't know to begin with. The gunman was probably calmed down. He may have been ready to give himself up for all we know. They may have had a means of seeing what he was doing by that point.

The bottom line on this is from outside in the corridor all the cops knew is they had an active shooter that was probably using multiple children as a human shield and had the entrance door covered by rifle fire. Only ape level intelligence would think the local cops should try to go running in there shooting. It is the same level of intelligence that tried to force vaccines, that claimed Jan 06 was insurrection, that BLM was peaceful protest. Complete fucking nonsense.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I usually don't call people bootlickers, but for you I'm willing to make an exception.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do usually call ignorant and stupid people ignorant and stupid and I have no intention of making an exception for you.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Engage the shooter when he is in an unknown location somewhere in a room full of children. Yet you actually believe you thought about this right? Do you think they are going to dive through the doorway like a ninja and instantly fire a perfect brain shot while in mid air that passes between all the children and takes him out because you can do that to pass level 6 of the stupid video game you play all day?

Real life is not like video games for one big reason. You don’t get to do it 38 times and die before you nail it on the 39th try. In real life you either get it perfect the first time, when you have not even seen what is waiting on the other side of that door yet, or it's game over. Permenantly.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you believe the shooter was in a dungeon classroom with only 1 door and no windows?