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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I did too, that's why you get shingles. You never really get rid of the chicken pox virus, you just keep it in check. When it comes back it's shingles.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I just read that the shingles vaccine is fairly variable in effectiveness and only lasts a few years. Imagine pumping full of COVID, flu, shingles and other vaccines every year in fear of illness. It's a wonder the immune system can cope that that level of interference.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shingles can be really nasty with lingering nerve pain. That one I kinda want to avoid personally.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In general, our medical culture is vastly over-treating and vastly under-analyzing the health of their patients. Rather than do the hard work of figuring out the universe within which symptoms are appearing (i.e. root causes in actual "health"), doctors are working from a series of algorithms which lead to unique treatment for each symptom that appears. This leads precisely where we are. Just as you say, there are now so many different interventions attacking so many separate "causes" that it is a huge stretch to credulity that they actually understand the insanely complex cross-reactions among all the various treatments they're loading their patients with. This is a very serious problem I see discussed very little within the institutions of medicine. The doctors themselves are aware of this problem, but the hospital networks within which money has concentrated are creating very destructive incentives regarding treatment. The amount of money being pumped into vaccines (all in the purely capitalistic expectation of profit; that's why Bill Gates is doing this, after all) is a poster child for the monster under the bed in our modern sick-care system.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Such a valid point, the potential cross reaction and long term effects are widely unknown or ignored on the basis that statistically, individual treatments are safe for the majority. Treatments themselves seem to be distributed willynilly these days, aside from vaccines, antibiotics are handed out like candy, often not even for the appropriate infection. I've seen people given amoxicillin for a common cold before now. It's not helped by a population driven to living in fear of social contact and being permanently paranoid of microbes that they see a doctor for stitches for nothing more than a scratch or getting a bandage for a split toenail. The system is broken, and it's likely to be causing more long term social damage to health than actually helping people. We're in that predicament now where we've eradicated measles to the point that more people die from the vaccine than the virus.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The closest thing I see to hope at this point would be for patients to progressively (over time) abandon the large networks and find our way into the newer "boutique" practices (pay-for-service, insurance cut out of the middle). I don't know enough about this model to speak knowledgeably, but I am confident "health insurance" (which is a monstrous linguistic lie in itself for what this payment system does) is the biggest part of the puzzle. These huge third-party elements between patient and doctor must be killed, and killed very dead.