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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Letting Russian aggression go unchecked would just bite us harder in the ass later when Russia goes after a State we are pledged to defend.

[–]BravoVictor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That would be true if Russia aggression were out of the blue. It's not. They're reacting to our aggression. The US is currently occupying several countries mostly in the Middle East and Africa. We're still occupying Iraq. Probably didn't realize that, did you? 100,000 civilians died from our invasion. More by other estimates.

We tried to be a little more subtle in Ukraine, and make it look like an organic revolution, but it didn't go unnoticed to international intelligence services, who know exactly what happened in 2014.

It's one thing for a country to organically make alliances with the west. Latvia and other countries joined NATO like that. It's another thing for CIA trained snipers to start killed police, then protesters overrun government buildings, and wouldn't you know, US-backed comedian millionaire with overseas mansions in Florida and Italy is then the front-runner for the next "election". That's not a coincidence.

It gets more complicated though. The US government has been aware of Nazi groups operating in the Ukraine military as far back as 2015, and some Congressmen tried including amendments to bills to stop the US from funding them. The US's Jewish lobby was able to block the amendment, claiming the group had "moderated" their rhetoric, but I can't find any recent evidence that that's the case.

So we have Nazis in Ukraine, nominally being lead by a Jewish President in Kyiv (who allegedly has very little control over his military), who have been killing civilians in Donbass, while being funded by the US. And now Putin, who's also ethnically Jewish, is allegedly invading to de-Nazify Ukraine, and the US is unhappy about that.

Geo-politics is messy.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

They're reacting to our aggression

So... our "aggression" of treaty making was countered with invasion. Yeah, totally see how we were really the aggressors there. But whatever, Putin made a play and it didn't work, now they're going to be bankrupted again.

I don't really care about the propaganda either way. The Nazi thing is stupid though, some % of US forces are nationalists or in gangs.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Scheming to install a puppet so that you can put your ( the USA's ) nukes on Moscow's doorstep isn't aggressive. It's fucking suicidal.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Latvia is just as close to Moscow.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is Latvia run by a US puppet though?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure, u/Gravi would be the dude to ask. I assume US Dollars have the same pull just about everywhere.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Almost. Bielorussia is closer, but that doesn't seem to be under Western imperial domination.

But yeah it may very well be that this is just a coordinated diversion to make the sheeple forget to be afraid of the common cold so that they can be afraid of the Russian bogeyman.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ukraine is where all the nukes were made in the USSR. As I've been saying for months, nobody knows if the Russian (or Chinese) nuclear arsenal is actually viable. Putin may need Ukraine if he wants to remain a nuclear power, or rebuild a nuclear arsenal.

Initially Russia had planned a false flag attack. Russia's OpSec fails cause the military is corrupt. The US probably gets real time reports of everything Russia does. That fucked with Putin's plans, making him keep vital details hidden from all his advisors.

Now, Putin isn't a dumb guy. He had already imported billions for a war chest. He knew sanctions were coming. He had to have really needed Ukraine to have risked this cost.

And what is Ukraine good for? Uranium, nukes, and wheat.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He had already imported billions for a war chest.

But where is his money? Where has he placed his bets for personal gain?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

His ultimate asset is Russia itself. I don't know if you can put a value on world power, and what is Russia's is Putin's.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if there is a public list of where Putin has put his money. How much has he invested in the West? Sure, he receives a cut of what goes down in Russia, but where does he invest the money he already has?

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, totally see how we were really the aggressors there.

I don't know what I said that would require such rudeness from you. There are more ways to be aggressive than simply run running tanks across a border.

The Democrat's entire argument in 2016 was that Russia subverted US elections to install Trump as President. A $40 million dollars investigation later found no evidence that that was true, but our newfound Russiaphobia is still a useful scapegoat.

Is it really so hard to imagine that we don't do the same thing in other countries? In the post-nuclear age, this is what hybrid wars look like. Nuclear armed countries can't go into direct conflict with each other. If they want to expand their spheres of influence, they have to be subtle about it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What was rude about my response?

There are more ways to be aggressive than simply run running tanks across a border.

Pulling out a gun in a fistfight is an escalation of conflict, which Russia did. This was hardly an unavoidable action with no other alternatives.

At 155 rubles to a dollar, without an end in sight, I'd say Putin choose poorly.

newfound Russiaphobia

It is only recently Russia wasn't viewed as an outright enemy. And you know why they are, it's because they do shit like this. When this was first going down, my thought was we're going to see Russians as the bad guy in films again.

[–]Cyberat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

HELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO Matrix Sheeple !!!

Here is Your Red Pill:

There is no Russian Aggression, repeated false flag hoaxes as USA has done to every country we invaded for resources.

Countries USA Invaded since the end of WWII: Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, and now Ukraine.

Countries Russia Invaded since the end of WWII:.

By-proxy Armies held by USA/CAN/AUS: Mujahadin, Muslim Brotherhood, Tali-brand, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Kurd Rebels, Ukraine's AZOV Nazis.

By-proxy Armies held by Russia/China/N.K.: Hezbollah.

We are staging the invasion of Ukraine by USA troops, as we did in the past. For the profit of the Biden Gang & Western Corpos. raping Ukraine.

Win, Win Situation - Nuclear WWIII fits the goals of the NWO Great Reset. Aka population reduction to 500mil. or below, for better enslavement.

WAKE THE FUCK UP SHEEPLE !!!

[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Second, if Putin is the “bad guy,” if Russia is evil, why is Biden continuing to buy billions of dollars of oil from Russia every day? Does this make sense?

Same with the EU. We are heavily reliant on it and Putin knows this, and uses the profits to fund his war. That's why need to get rid of our dependency.

This is pure “wag the dog” theatre, to save Biden from the worst polls in modern history. Instead of hating Biden, they want you to hate Putin.

Ah yes.

I lost several IQ points by reading this