Black BLM Activists Pushing Back Against White Radical Leftist Extremists Trying to Take Over the Movement. The white radical element began launching a social media campaign against the black leaders to push them out of power. White leftists essentially used cancel culture to smear black BLM leaders

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (49 children)

I think it's funny that the article starts out by saying, "Here’s a story that will never be covered by any major media outlet," and then links to an article on the same subject by one of the largest publishers of Oregon specific news, Oregon Public Broadcasting.

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/23/portland-protest-racial-justice-oregon-black-lives-matter/

The OPB article seems less biased IMO. The redstate article reads like more of an opinion piece by the author, but both articles bring up some good points of discussion about the protest movements happening in portland.

It's a shame that the BLM and Antifa movements have been lumped together so hard by the media, it has really degraded the discussion of topics championed by either of these movements, and has created mass hysteria around ideas as common sense as civil rights for minority groups in the US, and also being anti fascism.

[–]ReeferMadness 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (48 children)

Antifa is not anti fascism, they are fascist. It's a tiny group of people who want to force their beliefs on society with violence and fear.

And BLM is not a civil rights group. There are no rights denied minorities for them to be fighting for. It is a political organization that exists to stoke racial fear and animosity for political purposes. They use racebaiting tactics to push voters to the democrat party.

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    [–]ReeferMadness 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

    Neither of those groups have been trying to bring those topics into public discourse. They were just using the emotional response associated with those topics to manipulate people.

    Everyone is against fascism. The discussion is about what we should lump into the basket of fascism in order to throw it out. Antifa are waging a propaganda war to label everything that is not communist as fascist as a tactic to bring about communism, which has been renamed socialism. No one participating in that discussion can define fascism because the game is to keep redefining everything you don't like as fascist.

    It's the same game with "civil rights" and "racism". We live in a country that literally has special privileges and programs only available to minorities and yet here you are still talking like the opposite is true. You are brainwashed. Anti racism is just code for anti white.

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      [–]ReeferMadness 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (42 children)

      And we should be able to talk about civil rights for minority groups

      What rights do minorities not have?

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        [–]ReeferMadness 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        The very idea that you could have special language departments for every language on earth is absolutely insane. It is not the government's responsibility to provide that. It is their responsibility to learn english.

        Never in history has translation services been considered a human right. This is yet another example of throwing bullshit into a basket it does not belong in to give it credibility.

        It is not a civil right, and you are not fighting for civil rights by throwing everything you want into that basket.

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          [–]ReeferMadness 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

          Calling it "equal access rights" is propaganda. It insinuates that if it is not provided in your language of choice then you are being denied access. That is plainly bullshit.

          I never mentioned the idea of a special department for each language.

          Yes you did. You just don't understand what the propaganda you are repeating is demanding. If it is the government's responsibility to provide services in the native tounge of every citizen, and we have citizens from around the world, then that means the government has to have language facilities in every government building for every language on the world.

          Spanish is NOT the only other language in the world.

          The US absolutely should be clear that english is the official language, and I guarantee the only obstacle to that is leftists who block that simply because they want leverage to make these unreasonable, untenable, illogical demands.

          Everyone has equal access. That YOU lack the intelligence, or reading comprehension, or education, does not mean that the government is at fault for your shortcomings.

          The entire idea that the government has to make up for everyone's differences or else it's not fair is an impossible to fulfill demand. It is completely unreasonable.

          The school district i grew up in provided a translator for students that didn't know English yet.

          That is a special privilege that you received, not something you were owed. Did the school also do that for the Chinese kids, and the polish kids and the Indian kids and the Korean kids, and the eskimo kids? Why are you better than them?

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            [–]ReeferMadness 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

            As I understand it they have all the same rights as every other American. On top of that they have reservations on which they have more rights than other Americans. Broken thirties are not civil rights violations, they are broken treaties.

            The reservations they have are ghettos. They have free reign to build anything they want and there are no factories or farms or universities. All they build are casinos. Easy money which the elders keep for themselves and squander. More land would not make any difference to Native peoples.

            That doesn't justify breaking treaties. But any claim that the broken treaties are responsible for the poverty of Native Americans is just leftist bullshit. At the end of the day Natives leave the reservation to go find work. If the reservations were any bigger they would have to travel further.

            No one is fighting for civil rights. They are fighting for more welfare, more affirmative action, more anti white propaganda. Anyone who believes the propaganda is brainwashed.

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              [–]ReeferMadness 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

              They aren't denied land ownership. They can buy land just like everyone else. You are making bullshit claims.

              [–]Trolley 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Perhaps you misspoke - no one has a right to land in America. The Declaration of Independence says that we are endowed by our Creator with the unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It, however, is not a legally binding document on the American government. What is a legally binding document on the American government is the Constitution. That document's fifth and fourteenth amendments says that we have rights to life, liberty, and property that cannot be denied us without due process. Those amendments prohibit both state and federal governments from depriving a person in the United States of life, liberty, or property without following their own laws (procedural due process), and prevent state and federal governments from violating fundamental human rights as recognized by the Supreme Court even if they pass a law allowing them to do so (substantive due process).

              But nothing in the Constitution says anything about a civil right to land.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              Everyone is against fascism.

              They wouldn't be if they understood what that word actually meant.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

              Just gonna drop a link so any lurkers can find the definition if they want to. I am definitely against fascism.