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[–]ethiopia 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Which is why the amount of sympathy and social acknowledgement you get when you miscarry at 2-3 months is virtually nil.

idk what heathens you associate with, but for me and my friends its a deeply sad thing

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Compared to actually losing a baby, it's not in the same ballpark.

[–]ethiopia 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

that's a combination of factors, one being that complications during pregnancy and losing a pregnancy are more common, and also because people value a little baby over a fetus.

that isn't a good argument for abortion being moral.

look don't get me wrong, i'm down with the radfem arguments, coming from a very marxist background, reproductive labor, etc. I just view society, the world, from a different epistemological/philosophical standpoint than purely marxist (materialist/atheist) point. Although I have learned much from it.

I don't believe that it is a political issue, women ending their pregnancies. I think it is a moral issue. And I am allowed to have a moral disagreement. From a more reasoning perspective, I think it is absolutely ridiculous to women giving up their incredible power in creating life, educating their children, in favor of public education, propoganda/waste of time college, and a job that makes you just another worker. So I am in favor of traditional households, and what I mean by that isn't "mother rears, father brings home $$" I mean both parents, their extended families, are investing as much time into the children, emphasis on self-sustainability. Obviously very few people in the cosmopolitan world are in this position, but that's why we are in this shit situation to begin with.

this isn't even taking into account the eugenics part of birth control and abortion, and push towards promscuity

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is the same ballpark.