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[–]wahala 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

"The chants reference a massacre of the Jews in the town of Khaybar, in northwestern Arabia, in 628 C.E." Wow, and I thought the folks who got their undies in a bunch over Confederate Statues were hung up on the past...

[–]HegeMoney 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Muhammad died in 632 CE, so islam is barely older than this battle.

Are we seriously supposed to believe that there is a 1400 year old grudge by the Muslims (who won) against the Jews (who lost).

The Khazars didn't convert until 740 CE or so (at the earliest), so the Jews in this massacre are ethnically distinct.
No relation to what is currently considered "Jewish" in the west.

It's possible this chanting happened, or whatever.

I would think that anyone familiar enough with jewish history to know about this obscure massacre, would likely also know about the Khazarian history, etc.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to think that Syrian, Iraqi, and Afghani refugees would pick this historical event for an antisemetic protest.

An antisemetic protest, in arabic, against swedish Jews?

Certain groups will often try to appear to be victims. This seems more probable.

IDK. It doesn't make sense to me.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

I'm positive Islam was largely a Jewish concoction to subvert Christianity; the radical sects of Islam also were set in a hierarchy masonic structure such as thr Assassins where the final degree taught the initiate that religion is a lie.

Most muslims I know, at least in lebanon and the Shi'ite sect are very nice moral people. I also have met many nice Jews. I still cannot get over how Jewish Ziofascist Likudniks did 9/11 though.

Go to Israel and preach Yeshua and you will be spit on and stoned.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

the radical sects of Islam also were set in a hierarchy masonic structure such as thr Assassins where the final degree taught the initiate that religion is a lie.

Wait, so like the plot of Assassin's Creed?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, there was a historical group os islamic radicals called 'The Assassins' set up very much like in the degrees of freemasonry.

[–]flugegeheimen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what was his inspiration. Real life assassins (ismailite dudes from Alamut, Syria) have mostly been famous for inventing suicidal terrorism, using hashish to brainwash their fanatics and have been stomped by Mongols long before masons even entered the picture. Obviously in reality there is exactly as much common between assassins and masons as you would expect from completely different organizations existing in different geographic locations and times: basically nothing.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Suicidal irreligious assassinations, yes.

The founders of modeen political terrorism, howecer, were Lehi, Irgun and the Stern Gang.

Jewish terror groups.

Begin, Former Irgun leader, even admits to being the orchestrator of most western terror attacks, and Irgun is now the Likud.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like a bit of a stretch to think that Syrian, Iraqi, and Afghani refugees would pick this historical event for an antisemetic protest. An antisemetic protest, in arabic, against swedish Jews? Certain groups will often try to appear to be victims. This seems more probable.

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[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You seem to not understand that much of Muslim sectarian identify is taken from what happened in the generation directly after Muhammad's death and that sectarian identity is far more important within mostly Muslim groups and lead to most of the religious violence. They very much all know these historical stories because not knowing what side of them your people were on will get you killed.

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    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I bet you could quote the Quran before the new testement. It's not long. At least Muslims believe Yeshia to be a prophet and an example to follow. Jews killed him and hate him. Say he is boiling in seamen.