To end gun violence we should abandon the War on Drugs

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Again my goal is no guns on the streets. No guns means no gun deaths. Not crime. We can deal with crime just look around all those police need a new job. The whole premise of the second was to check government. You failed at that experiment. Therefore the law is an ass. Nibleing around the edges has got us 30k dead this year dead because they owned or felt they had to shoot a guy because he had a gun to begin with. Not logically honest. Solves nothing and hurts thousands. Not good government by any matrix. The laws is the ass here it's simple.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay, great. So we agree to disagree. But no guns allowed does not = no guns. A black market will emerge and many criminals in inner cities will still obtain guns of all kinds. As for law abiding citizens who are reaponsible gun owners, do you suppose we take guns away from them, even inrural areas with gun crime near Baltic levels?

The whole premise of the second was to check government.

The 2nd is part of the co stitution but common law and God's law means us as humans have a right to own any weapon. So, as I've stated, responsible gun owners will hold onto their guns.

You failed at that experiment.

No we didn't and surely if the US did impose martial law, and tried to ban all guns, gun owners would defend their rights as human beings.

Therefore the law is an ass.

It is, but your views are too.

Nibbling around the edges has got us 30k dead this year.

Most are suicides. The gun isn't the reason, for if it was no suicides would occur. Men commit the most suicides because many are disenfranchised, impoverished, have infections are in serious debt and have no way out.

BAN PSYOPS, an YOU FIX mass shootings.

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No guns no gun deaths. The fact is undeniable you won't admitt I'm right, but we know we are. When you get it then you to can say the same.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're literally spewing a straman. Yes, the TOTAL erradication of guns everywhere = no gun deaths. But that is not going to happen. Sorry. Guns are a staple in the US and its culture in well ingrained in rural america, a lot of places where gun crime is much lower than places where guns are not allowed. What do you propose a mandatory buy back? Or government coming breaking and entering law abiding citizens homes to confiscate all guns?

There never will be NO GUNS, not in the US where gun culture is unlike any other gun culture in the world. Sorry, but again, no guns allowed does not = no gun deaths, and no guns allowed does not = a reduction in homicides or violent crime.

As guns per capita has climbed in the US, gun crime and gun homicides has declined significantly since 1994. The rest of the big mass shootings are merely media PSYOPS, and same with the recent texas one used to push legislation through which would aloow citizens to carry in places of worship. Both sides produce PSYOPs on the reg to control public perception.

If you don't want guns, don't purchase one and don't have anyone you know purchase one. The responsible gun owners will keep their guns. As for the inner city gun violence, that stems from the purchase of guns illegaly, drug violence and substance abuse, poverty and poor education/gang violence.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do think you miss my point. Register what you got store them and use them in an armory and range keep it if you got it. Staw my ass. You can't tell me how many guns are on the streets. I want to know. That's regulated. Barring that? Then all guns have to go. Laws are ment to be amended it is our right to do that?. Numbers and facts just not on your side neither is time. Because the fact is, no guns no gun deaths. That is exactly what I want to say. And will say it with out your stupid strawman. You know you love the gun laws admit this it gives you cover with out accountability. And 30k + gun deaths in America just this year demand your accountability. Just saying you got nothing cant win forever or used your gun for any good in my eyes. We still have a government you failed at your only job. The part l liked about the second you had over two hundred years by know it's time to modified the right you think is permanent lol funny 😂 we are not fighting England and we are not fighting government at all. The law is the ass.