Fascists vs. Anti-Fascists

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    [–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

    Anti-fascists are nothing like fascists

    Apart from:

    • hating free speech;
    • hating democracy;
    • using violence to promote their ideology;
    • blaming others for their problems (and almost invariably the wrong others).

    And of course lets not forget:

    • Both are avid supporters of the military-industrial complex. One side will fall for even the most obvious, transparent self-serving propaganda if you fly the national flag, while the other side will fall for even the most obvious, transparent self-serving propaganda if you label your enemies "the next Hitler".
    • Both of them simp for big corporations. One side just demands that the corporation flies their country's flag, while the other side demands they fly the rainbow flag.

    Are their differences? Of course. There are a million ways to be an idiot follower of authoritarian ideologies, but the similarities are more important than the differences. Fascists typically align with traditional misogynic values like keeping women barefoot and pregnant and banning abortion, while antifascists align with neo-misogynic values like labelling women "uterus bearers" and insisting that girls as young as ten can consent to having their breasts cut off and put on hormones that will alter their body forever. They're just different flavours of woman-hatred.

    [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Fascists typically align with traditional misogynic values like keeping women barefoot and pregnant and banning abortion, while antifascists align with neo-misogynic values like labelling women "uterus bearers" and insisting that girls as young as ten can consent to having their breasts cut off and put on hormones that will alter their body forever. They're just different flavours of woman-hatred.

    I was with you up until this point, as this makes it sound like you think everything is just a conspiracy against women.

    [–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Lol this comment is funny.

    "I'm totally on board with being 2 standard deviations below the mean IQ, but 3 deviations is where I draw the line"

    [–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    you think everything is just a conspiracy against women

    There's no conspiracy. It's just a bunch of woman-hating losers, whether right-wing spoiled brats who have never gotten over Mummy telling them they have to clean their room, or left-wing spoiled brat perverts LARPers who want to fantasize about being Princess Peach while they fuck lesbians with their "girl cock", acting according to their nature as woman-haters.

    [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Because it makes it sound like men never ever have to deal with any BS and it's only women who have any hardships in life. Either that, or it only matters if it's women.

    [–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

    If fascism was going to work, it would have worked by now.

    Time for something else.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    It worked so well it took two superpowers and the biggest empire in history to destroy it.

    [–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    Are you talking about the Polish military junta in 1939? Spain under Franco? Pinochet? The Second Republic of Portugal? Vichy France? The Free City of Danzig? The Kuomintang? Guatemala's CIA-installed "banana republic" for the benefit of the United Fruit Company? El Salvador? Argentina? Uruguay, Honduras, Cuba, Nicaragua, Bolivia?

    So many failed regimes that ruined their nations. I'm pretty sure I would remember if they were destroyed by "two superpowers and the biggest empire in history".

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    AFAIK none of those were fascist except for possibly Cuba.

    Edit: I'm talking about Castro, especially before he decided he was a Communist, in case that wasn't clear. Peronism actually sounds a lot like fascism, but I'll admit I haven't looked into that enough to pass judgement on it.

    I would say that there are three main categories of which I would describe as fascist movements getting into power (and the most exemplary countries):

    European/First Wave: Germany, Italy

    Islamic/Arab Nationalist: Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya

    "Red Fascism": China, North Korea, Romania

    [–]Markimus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Not a single one of these was fascist lol, he's talking about the Axis powers. You know there's this thing called 'World War 2', you somehow seem to have no idea what that is.

    [–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The noise you heard was A Clue rushing over your head.

    [–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nope, you are just ignorant of history and political philosophy and coping

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactly.

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      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Is a little extra success even worth it when people are miserable under a tyrannical state?