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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

If the full rollout happens as intended, they need a cell tower every 1000 feet!

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

I have a 5G phone in a city that was an early adopter of 5G and only once have I actually had a 5G signal. Also seemed like it drained my battery more than regular but it's hard to tell from one time.

[–]FediNetizen[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

You are correct about the battery drain, particularly if you have one of the first-gen 5G phones.

Several years ago, manufacturers switched to integrating the CPU and the modem on the same chip. Part of the reason for this was power savings. However, Qualcomm really wanted to push 5G as a phone feature before it was ready, so for their first 5G phones they put the modem back onto its own chip. This resulted in a crop of phones that were more expensive and had mediocre battery life for the battery size.

And honestly, 5G is really more of a benefit for the carriers than for most consumers. We've had enough bandwidth to stream HD video for a while, and that's about the most bandwidth-intensive activity most consumers engage in.

[–]BigFatRetard 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

My research indicated that the higher frequency signals do in fact interact with matter more than lower frequency signals, but because of that the waves are immediately blocked by a very thin layer of skin.

It all kind of makes sense, that's why ionizing radiation is scary, but even then you don't need to worry much about alpha particles unless an alpha emitter gets inside your body.

[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

remember that in order for the phone to work inside a building, the 5G has to make it through the cladding, insulation and framing material. Your skull and brains are equally traversable by the waves

[–]FediNetizen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the reason is because those waves don't interact very much. If they did then they would lose energy.

[–]BigFatRetard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The tech will switch between the ideal frequency for the case. They're not going to use 50GHz for broadcasting through a neighborhood. It's much more likely they'd use that frequency for line of sight in an airport or arena.

There's studies from long before 5g was a twinkle in anyone's eye that show that 50GHz won't penetrate more than a mm of skin. This is consistent with the concerns of 5g critics who are worried that the higher frequencies will interact more with human tissue, as well as the law of conservation of energy. The more the frequency interacts with the human body, the less it can penetrate the human body because it's consumed in the process.

As I said, this is similar in concept to radiation. An alpha emitter will probably have every single particle that reaches your body will interact with your body, whereas a gamma emitter can penetrate but is less likely to interact with your body. The result is that generally speaking gamma sources are the scariest because shielding can only do so much, and the best protection against gamma is distance.

[–]FediNetizen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

For reference, about the highest frequency 5G band is around 50 Gigahertz. Ionizing radiation starts in the UV band around 1000 Terahertz, or 20,000x higher frequency. It's really not even close.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

ionization is not an issue. Resonant heating of small cavities / vessels is. The same phenomena that sets the towers on fire. That and bad actors using their own protocols to turn the 5G towers into a distributed phase array transmission system, and upping the localised power to dangerous levels.

But really, its just enabling the technocratic surveillance state. Be a good goy.

[–]FediNetizen[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Resonant heating of small cavities / vessels is. The same phenomena that sets the towers on fire.

This is so stupid that I had to stare at it for a while. You think that the bands in the 10s of Ghz are spontaneously lighting things on fire? I'm curious what your take on modern car radar is, which uses even higher frequencies. My car doesn't have any of that. Should my electronics be lighting on fire, or just theirs? Also, do you know what an LED light does?

That aside, it wasn't "resonant heating", it was actual fucking people lighting the shit on fire. Plenty of conspiratards, and quacks like you, that think 5G is something nefarious because they don't really understand technology decided they needed to destroy the towers.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

You think that the bands in the 10s of Ghz are spontaneously lighting things on fire?

yep. through resonant cavity plasma formation. you need to be throwing kW at it, though. Your car radar is too little.

I was going to post some physics research papers on the subject, but since its you, have IFLS

https://www.iflscience.com/physics/why-grapes-produce-sparks-in-a-microwave/

I'm sure some people burnt down towers, but the ones here happened ... in the rain. That's important, of course. Badly installed and not watertight and you get moisture in the cable glands, and boom. plasma generation.

[–]FediNetizen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Do you not even understand the contradiction here? Standing resonance in a microwave is completely different from the nonsense claim that 5G hardware is spontaneously lighting itself on fire. Even older cell technology operates in roughly the same bands as a microwave.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

do you understand the physics of why you get a resonance in grapes in a 1kW microwave? 2.4Ghz sets the resonant cavity size (grape). Add a bit of water and hey presto, plasma.

Even older cell technology operates in roughly the same bands as a microwave.

Now scale down the damp cylinders to match the frequency of the 5G, to, say, 1.5mm2 cable, get them damp, and hey presto, your 3kW 5G tower to tower link is now making plasma too. Same physics, smaller scales.

Why you think there is any difference is something we'd all love to hear.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

There's still plenty worth investigating with non-ionizing radiation. I've seen credible studies that it can alter like 5 different biological processes. Some shit with your calcium levels or something.

[–]BeautifuLusers 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget about other lifeforms response https://moldhelpforyou.com/mold-emfs-5g/

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also non ionizing radiation can cause heating. That's why they don't allow people in MRI machines for more than hour. Some fully sedated guy had his legs crossed when in the MRI and they didn't notice until after that his legs had burned and melted together because they formed a closed loop and it inductively heated... so now there are safety protocols that limit being in an MRI/fMRI machine to 1 hour at a time. This example and rule was part of my training when I operated fMRI machines for research

[–]BigFatRetard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was only comparing the two because of the parallels between something that can penetrate and something that interacts. There's a clear difference between the two otherwise.