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[–]just_lesbian_things 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The worst scenario is that we as a people have demonstrated our willingness to blindly submit and allow the ruling class to deceive us into surrendering our liberties over a comparatively harmless threat

Nah, Americans have already fully demonstrated how easily they're manipulated in a number of other ways, from the way you're all extremely obese due to sugar overconsumption to your absurd military worship and willingness to send your children to die in the name of special interest. You've got nothing to lose in that department, trust me.

Non N-95 masks don't work

... get N95 masks?

Even the Surgeon General

That was back in February, when healthcare workers were facing a mask shortage due to the large number of people buying them. He has since said they do:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1292070050585645056

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are right about that. My only take would be that the loss of rights is unparalleled, and establishes a dangerous precedent.

Yes, the Surgeon General retracted his previous statement. When an official source of repute is apparently only right 50% of the time, and you have to guess which 50, then it leads to an overall loss of credibility anyway.

The CDC even concluded previously that masks were ineffective:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR1wgGi1n82n8eGLEFTIbzV3atyHqop9DqK-rhx7itJ0SY3eZm5erwTZw6g

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-07-22-if-masks-dont-work-then-why-do-surgeons-wear-them/

All these increasingly glaring incongruencies just leads to a great deal of speculation. Since with the astronomical amount of noise associated with this topic in general. It's difficult to delineate what is closer to the truth.

[–]just_lesbian_things 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My only take would be that the loss of rights is unparalleled, and establishes a dangerous precedent.

What rights?? The right to not wear a mask?? I try not to pay attention to American politics because of the sheer stupidity, but iirc, they're not arresting people for not wearing masks. What precedent does it set? We've already established that the American population is extremely easy to manipulate. Like I said, that's not news. Most people around the world put their masks on just fine. America isn't special. Just wait out this pandemic and then your children can go back to getting shot at school like they used to.

It's difficult to delineate what is closer to the truth.

Yeah, it's a new virus. Which is why you should weigh your pros and cons.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What precedent does it set?

That civil rights can be suspended indefinitely without due process, by executive decree. Yes people have gotten arrested, persecuted, prosecuted etc.

We've already established that the American population is extremely easy to manipulate.

...and what population isn't?

Most people around the world put their masks on just fine.

This brings evidence to my previous question.

America isn't special.

Depends on how you define special.