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[–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Why? Because: Carbon Dioxide makes up just 0.04%. Yet the more "powerful gas", water vapor, various from 0% to 4% naturally. And visibly forms clouds that shade us from the sun.

The greenhouse effect is nothing more than an aspect of the rain cycle, and is a natural aspect of the environment.

These are not things they wish for you to research, as it is all just a climate hoax for profit and a grift for power and control of the masses.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why? Because: Carbon Dioxide makes up just 0.04%. Yet the more "powerful gas", water vapor, various from 0% to 4% naturally.

"More powerful" takes into account the concentration.

There's a fucking retard here that things that

"""Water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas""".

This is fucking retarded.

Oh, wait, that's you!

So you're claiming now that both water vapor is a more powerful greenhouse gas, and that it's fucking retarded to say that Water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas?

Or is this supposed to be a retraction of your previous views?

The greenhouse effect is nothing more than an aspect of the rain cycle, and is a natural aspect of the environment.

The natural greenhouse effect warms the planet about 33°C.

The anthropgenic part of the greenhouse effect is the bit that's been warming on top of that for the past 100 years. It's only at about 1°C, but it's increasing.

This is related to and primarily caused by the increase in atmospheric CO2. You can see the relationship in this chart.

These are not things they wish for you to research, as it is all just a climate hoax for profit and a grift for power and control of the masses.

This is an example of bullshit. But do follow the money. Climate science denial is generally funded by the fossil fuel industry.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

So you're claiming now that both water vapor is a more powerful greenhouse gas, and that it's fucking retarded to say that Water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas?

Correct. Or more accurately, somewhat correct. It is your belief, and I find it retarded that you can contribute climate change to water vapor, while ignoring the massive scale of all the moisture in the air, and blaming carbon, while pretending it doesn't cause growth of plant life in the environment.

Further more, I do not care to pretend that clouds do not contain water vapor, because they visually exist through the existence of water droplets or ice crystals once the humidity reaches 100%. This is mere semantics.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So you're claiming now that both water vapor is a more powerful greenhouse gas, and that it's fucking retarded to say that Water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas?

Correct.

Pick a lane. Is water vapor a powerful greenhouse gas or not.

It is your belief, and I find it retarded that you can contribute climate change to water vapor,

What the fuck does "you can contribute climate change to water vapor" mean?

while ignoring the massive scale of all the moisture in the air,

This is an example of bullshit. No one is ignoring the moisture in the air. It is an important positive feedback.

and blaming carbon,

CO2 is the most important greenhouse gas for the radiative forcing that is causing the current warming.

while pretending it doesn't cause growth of plant life in the environment.

This is another example of bullshit. No one is pretending carbon fertilisation doesn't increase growth of some plants when water, sunlight and soil nutrients aren't limited, nor that it increases the drought resistance of some plants.

I do not care to pretend that clouds do not contain water vapor

When you post that " a cloud is an aerosol consisting of a visible mass of miniature liquid droplets, frozen crystals, or other particles suspended in the atmosphere", how dumb do you you have to be to not realize that that doesn't include gasses?

because they visually exist through the existence of water droplets or ice crystals once the humidity reaches 100%.

What part of "water droplets or ice crystals" are you not understanding?

This is mere semantics.

Bullshit.

Water vapor is a greenhouse gas. Clouds are not.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What part of "water droplets or ice crystals" are you not understanding?

The volume of the cloud that isn't visible, as it's volume is greater than that which is simply seen.

And yes. I fully understand your 'scientific point of view' of what is, and is not "a cloud". But I don't care. As what I believe is retarded is your entire world view and belief system. As I find it fundamentally flawed, as a donkey following a carrot on a stick.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The volume of the cloud that isn't visible

Clouds are visible.

As what I believe is retarded is your entire world view and belief system.

What you said was "water vapor a powerful greenhouse gas is retarded".

Now you're saying water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas.

Which is it?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What you said was "water vapor a powerful greenhouse gas is retarded".

Actually, what I said was "This is fucking retarded" in reference to your statement. I left it vague and open ended as to go to sleep and deal with it another day.

Then later, the next day, I went on a fishing expedition, as I did not wish to read through your earlier comments and wanted you to explain your points of view to me. At which point I accepted your terminology as worded, and reasserted my rejection of your world view as propaganda meant for profiting off of the Green Energy. Which uses terms such as Climate change loosely, in place of proper terms such as "man made climate change" in order to sell lies through partial truths.

Which led me to constructing this thread, after reading of the link, while reading through r/conspiracy.

Hi! How are you doing?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"This is fucking retarded" in reference to your statement.

The meaning was the same as the sentence "water vapor a powerful greenhouse gas is fucking retarded". I paraphrased it down to one sentence, because I'm dealing with a fucking illiterate, who complains about all the words.

At which point I accepted your terminology as worded

I must have missed that. Can you link me to this comment where you accept my terminology?

and reasserted my rejection of your world view as propaganda meant for profiting off of the Green Energy.

What the fuck are you smoking?

Big green energy?

Sunlight and wind aren't like oil. You don't buy the mining rights. There's no one person who owns a quarter of the world's wind reserves.

The only industry with serious money in this game is the fossil fuel industry.

Which uses terms such as Climate change loosely, in place of proper terms such as "man made climate change" in order to sell lies through partial truths.

Got an example of such a partial truth?

Hi! How are you doing?

Wading through posts by people who can't grasp what water vapor feedback is, and blame "big sunshine" on their ignorance.

It's amusing enough if you don't need faith in humanity.

How are you?

[–]ShoahKahn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

HEAT INSULATIVE PROPERTIES (how much radiant heat sent from the Sun, the gas stops from being sucked back into space)

• CO₂ ― 1~3 Watts per square metre

• H₂O ― 100 W/m² (x33~100 of CO₂)

PREVELANCE IN ATMOSPHERE (as a component of all atmospheric gas)

• CO₂ ― 0.04%

• H₂O (as water vapour) ― 2~4% (x50~100 of CO₂)

TOTAL HUMAN CONTRIBUTION (since the Industrial Revolution)

• CO₂ ― 3%

• H₂O ― N/A

WATER VAPOUR HAS UP TO 10,000 (100x100) TIMES THE "GREENHOUSE WARMING POTENTIAL" (GWP) OF CARBON DIOXIDE.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

WATER VAPOUR HAS UP TO 10,000 (100x100) TIMES THE "GREENHOUSE WARMING POTENTIAL" (GWP) OF CARBON DIOXIDE.

Oh no. That sounds terrible....

But wait. It seems we rely on the greenhouse effect to stay alive:

Greenhouse gases keep our planet livable. Without them, Earth’s surface temperature would be about 59 degrees Fahrenheit (33 degrees Celsius) colder.

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/cbdi/water_vapor_is_earths_most_abundant_greenhouse_gas/

I'm so confused. Will someone tell me what to think as to better be a good sheep citizen?

[–]ShoahKahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)