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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

The vaccines play a relevant role in the genocide plan being carried out by the Intelligence agencies involving Monsanto, Dupont and the Big Pharma groups as well:

Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test explaining how useless the results can be for viral examination.

Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.

The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.

FDA Risk-Benefit Analysis Hides 'Bad Data' on Moderna Shots for Kids. (June, 2022)

The CDC's Swine Flu Fraud of 1976.

The CDC's Swine Flu fraud of 2009.

Riley Schubert won a $138,000 settlement as compensation due to an injury that he claims was caused by an HPV vaccine that caused him hearing issues. (US Courts 2016)

Purdue Pharma, Sacklers to pay $6 billion to settle opioid lawsuit. (NY Post, March, 2022)

State opioid settlement money now being distributed. (CBS News, October, 2022)

Glyphosate weedkiller damages wild bee colonies, study reveals. (The Guardian, June, 2022)

The 9th U.S Circuit Court of Appeals smacks EPA down on glyphosate.

Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)

All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits:

Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.

Big Pharma, Monsanto, Dupont and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.

Make sure to visit s/Jesuits for more info about the order and s/NationalistRevolution if you want to resist the Vatican.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

the genocide plan

Who is being genocided?

Is their population dropping yet?

[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Global population seems to have increased over 70,000,000 this year.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

So that's a "and, no", if you're referring to everyone.

Two other points:

1) "You are the carbon they want to reduce" is fucking stupid. They want to reduce the anthropogenic part of the greenhouse effect so that ocean and agricultural production don't decline so fast, which in turn increases the possible human biomass.

2) Daisy Ridley is not one of your nutjobs: https://www.greenmatters.com/community/bts-for-tomorrow-documentary

[–]iamonlyoneman 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Literally millions of people have died from the jab.

fucking stupid

someone certainly looks that way.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Literally millions of people have died from the jab.

Literally thousands have died of adverse events from the vaccine. Literally millions have been saved.

[–]iamonlyoneman 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The jab does not work. Studies showing it do, are gamed - beginning with the initial studies to gain (emergency) approvals.

If we survive as a species all the variants the boosties are creating, and if the history is allowed to be written, you will remember I told you so.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The jab does not work.

Read the link. Yes it does.

Studies showing it do, are gamed

Link me to the study showing this then.

[–]monkeymagic 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

you are an abominable piece of shit. your presence here on said it is some of the most disrespectful horse shit i’ve ever put up with on any site, including reddit.

[–]Entropick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

seconded!!!!

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Read the link. Yes it does.

Did you actually manage to read the entire paper without noticing that it is a model???

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You can't find alternative universe, and have everything the same except that they don't vaccinate people, and compare actual deaths.

Obviously you need to estimate deaths that would have happened without vaccination.

Come on man, rent a clue.

[–]SeethingPeasant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Actually there's no real proof anyone has been saved by the vaccine

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What's wrong with the paper I linked?

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What's wrong with the paper I linked?

The paper you linked to says:

"A mathematical model of COVID-19 transmission and vaccination was separately fit to reported COVID-19 mortality and all-cause excess mortality in 185 countries and territories."

This is not a study of actual lives saved. It's a model. Modelling proves absolutely nothing. It's a fairy tale and pure junk science.

From the paper:

(Disclaimer on that last paper: the authors quote a hazard ratio for this, which suggests to me they had no fucking clue what they were doing and just pushed buttons on their stats software until they got a number that they liked. Hazard ratios are very hard to interpret correctly even for experts but in this case the risk of hospitalisation from delta and alpha are clearly almost identical.)

Modelling Delta as almost fifty percent more severe than earlier strains is going to massively overestimate the unvaccinated deaths according to this model. This alone is enough to condemn it as junk science.

The paper is biased. It models immune escape from previous infection, but does not model vaccine escape. It even states: "If immune escape was higher than we assumed, more of the population would have been susceptible to re-infection and consequently more deaths from COVID-19 could have been averted by vaccination" which is fair enough but it makes no mention of the reverse scenario: if vaccine escape was included more vaccinated people would be susceptible to re-infection and consequently fewer deaths would be averted by vaccination.

Edit: oops, I made a mistake, the model does seemingly allow for breakthough infections of vaccinated people. So that's one criticism removed.

The paper uses completely bogus estimates of the IFR (infection fatality rate): 0.23% for countries with mostly younger people, and 1.15% for countries with more elderly people. These numbers, especially the second, are ludicrously high, and consequently they inflate the number of Covid deaths drastically.

In 2020, the WHO published a peer-reviewed estimate of Covid’s overall IFR of about 0.23% globally. Soon afterwards another peer-reviewed study revised that figure downward to about 0.15% globally. The latest research from John Ioannidis et al finds a global IFR of 0.03% and 0.07% for the 0-59 and 0-69 age groups.

There is absolutely no justification for an overall IFR of 1.15% unless you're going to assume that half the population is over 70. I would say that more realistic numbers are about 0.05 for countries with "young" populations and 0.1 for those with "old" populations.

Quoting the paper:

  • "we assume that all vaccinated individuals have a 50% reduction in infectiousness for breakthrough infections" -- there's no good evidence for this assumption, or indeed even a good reason for it. In reality, breakthrough infections are just as infectious as non-breakthrough ones.

  • "To simplify the model parameterisation, in both epidemics we assume a constant vaccine efficacy of 60% against infection and 90% against disease" -- both numbers are bogus. Vaccine efficacy against infection is not constant: it is typically negative for a week or two after vaccination due to immune suppression, then rises to possibly something as high as 40 or 50% for perhaps as long as 30 or 40 days, then falls to zero again. Efficacy against disease is more or less zero: asymptomatic infections are rare.

  • That statement is then contradicted by their Supplementary Table 1, where they use different vaccine efficacies according to vaccine type. The paper doesn't explain the contradiction.

  • "The standard deviation σ can be expressed as (mathematical formula) where r is the dispersion parameter and assumed to be equal to 7" (emphasis added). Why seven? Why not six, or eight? Or three? Or fifteen?

  • "Additionally, the total number of deaths related to the epidemic is assumed to be described by the Negative Binomial distribution with a dispersion parameter of 40." The Negative Binomial distribution is the standard distribution used for modelling epidemics (which doesn't mean it is necessarily a good model, only that it is the standard, conventional choice that everyone uses) but what's the justification for the choice of 40? Why not 39, or 41, or 20, or 80?

The point is, all of these parameters can be varied, and even if you don't like my numbers, the numbers used in the model aren't god-given, they're just numbers the modellers chose. They could have chosen different numbers. This is an exercise in mathematical modelling and by choosing values for the parameters they can get any result they like.

Want to prove that vaccination saved millions? Choose this model and this set of parameters. Want to prove the opposite? Tweak the model and/or the parameters. Since both the model and the parameter values are made up, you can choose anything that looks plausible.

CC u/SeethingPeasant

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is not a study of actual lives saved. It's a model.

FFS.

Please link to your estimate that didn't use modelling, and will talk about which one makes better estimates.

Modelling proves absolutely nothing.

I take it you don't fly in aeroplanes, enter large buildings or cross bridges?