Maui cars with melted rims and glass well away from any fire fuel source.

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    [–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    It's more like these guys have never seen a real wildfire before. This is the same dumb shit as jet fuel can't melt steel beams. No one has ever experienced a furnace effect. Also with the steel beams part they forget about compression, sheer and tensile stresses that those steel beams are under. It need not liquify to melt or expand enough to pull those stresses out of tolerance and cause melting from those forces alone.

    I have lived in California most of my life. From age 16-18 I was employed by the Newport Beach Fire Department (as a lifeguard, but still we had to do some fireman's training, especially in my EMT course which was done directly through the Fire department). I have lived through at least a dozen wild fires. I've seen fires do stuff like this a lot. They can burn far hotter than the fuel should allow. Heat can also radiate away from the actual flames and cause fire jumps across things like freeways, even without actual embers carrying it. But hell on the car note, even some of the police cars after the BLM riots "mostly peaceful protests". Show similar, albeit less severe damage from the car fire alone.

    I also lived in Maui for about a year in my 20s. It's not the least bit surprising that the fire department really would be this ill prepared. They simply have no experience with this sort of fire. The south west united states is really the only area truly experienced with large scale wildfires due to the exceptionally dry summers.

    [–]xolotltlalo 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    This is the same dumb shit as jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

    lol why are you really here? :)

    [–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hah, this is a good question.

    Honestly I don't remember joining /s/conspiracy, I think it may have been a default.

    I do like conspiracy theories though, I just like to look at them critically. They can be really creative and enticing, sort of like science fiction which is my favorite literary genre. Every now and then one actually genuinely appeals to me, but this happens far less often to me now, as my ex fiancee was a paranoid schizophrenic, my mother and her mother are also both a bit too likely to buy into conspiracy theories.

    As such I did a lot of research on logical fallacies and learned how conspiracy theories get so enticing. I've created a few conspiracy theories for fun over the years, one that I won't mention is actually REALLY popular and surprisingly widely believed.

    Then again some conspiracy theories I really do believe and some even turn out to be true. For example I still believe that Trump was put up to running for president by the Clintons, who believed he would split the Republican vote and help guarantee Hillary's victory. I think that's why she pushed so hard to control the Democrat primary votes in the 2016 election. She thought she had it in the bag. But I don't think Trump was ever really under their control. I think he was supposed to back out or blow it, but when he started gaining traction he quickly pivoted to running a real campaign.

    I also definitely believe the JFK shooting and 9/11 we don't really have the whole picture on, I just think conspiracy theories try to think too big and interesting which is both what makes them interesting to me, and the reason why they are seldom true. They usually fail both Occam's and Hanlon's razors. I think what we are not being told is something that on it's surface would appear more mundane, but in reality would have far more lasting implications. For example I do think there is something fishy about the plane that went down at the pentagon. But as far as the towers falling, given what I do know about fires it actually isn't that hard to believe. I have no real experience with skyscraper fires though. The tallest building I've ever dealt with in any capacity was an EMT training exercise where we "rescued" two people from a burning 6 story building