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[–]chottohen[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Good, thoughtful comment Tom. To add fuel to your idea Let me say the following from experience: the mentioned celebrities' houses are on the extreme east end of the island but Lahaina, where the burning was done, is on the extreme NW part, far from the rich celebs. Even though the island is not big, normal people who drive cars over to the east side, will need a few hours to get there because of narrow, very windy roads, making that celeb area isolated. The celebs take helicopters from the airport so they get to their homes in minutes. What I mean is, the liklihood of a celeb house being burned accidently was extremely low-probability. I've been there a few times because I used to live on The Big Island, right next to Maui. There'd be no surprise if the Kona (west) side of The Big is hit next. — And thanks for introducing us to 9 Gag.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm lucky to have visited the volcano on Hawaii (big island), and made the full circle journey road to Hana.

All the way past the last stop for most (where boulders rumble like thunder under the waves) through the final rough roads to the desert (which I never expected on a tropical island). Rented a Jeep, and it was well with it.

The locals are going to get steam rolled through the courts. If they changed status to reclaim their natural rights, then they'd stomp the globalists.

Citizens don't have property rights. Period. That's why you have to register a vehicle, and firearms, and you have to pay property taxes on land, etc.

Any time you hear/read the term "estate" they're describing a condition of property rights, which means less than full/true ownership.

The State has as property right of ownership in it's citizens. Hence income taxes are unavoidable for citizens. Citizens are property, and property cannot own property.

The feudal oath of fealty involved surrending you worldly possessions to the Lord of the Manor. Citizenship is feudal law, and the same ownership principle (or lack thereof) applies to citizens.

The only actual uncontrollable right that a US citizen has is to live on the land of their country. Beyond that, civil rights are an smokescreen of equality.
Everyone is equally enslaved.

These unfortunate people are going to get robbed by the bankster nationals who know how the game is played. It's hideous.

The only hope they have is the exposure from the murders. They covered up the Paradise CA murders, and squashed the investigation. However, Maui is high visibility, and they may have messed up this time.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a black swan event in September to capture the works attention. That's usually how they do these things.

I'll pray for the people of Hawaii, and Maui. They'll going to need God's graces to overcome this.

[–]chottohen[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks Tom. I owned a unit at Kona Magic Sands on The Big Island until I sold out in 2008, just before the crash. My accountant basically told me I was a fool and ended our relationship but I got out when my unit was at the peak of the bubble. I am glad to not own anything in the US now since it was so complicated. Do you know about what the early missionaries did? They knew it was a paradise so they got the laws changed so that (and this is changing) no one could buy a piece of land. You had to lease the land and when the lease ran out, you had to renegotiate the lease. It was and is a ripoff of grand proportions. Nowadays condos and private lease holders are buying back the property from families of the missionaries like my condo association did but it was an outrageous land grab even then. I think that outrageous deal with a few missionary families is one of the reasons the globalists chose Maui. In Hawaii, maybe everywhere, there is a very cozy relationship among the rich haole families, globalists, and the state government, while usually the real Hawaiians, the Chinese, Japanese, and other ethnic groups are mostly screwed and will probably be screwed again as you described. (The Japanese came to work on the sugarcane plantations but being way clever, now wield a lot of power in the Islands.) What happened was straight-up mass murder, as you said, and there are a lot of lawyers working for those ethnic groups, so let's hope they can stall any more murder land steals. I am glad not to living in the US now but I do not blame the average citizen; it's those globalist predators that I detest. Good to hear from you.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you know any lawyers in Hawaii still?

I wouldn't mind talking to one who may be receptive to new ideas.