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[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I gave you sources showing you that congress is incorporated in the jurisdiction of the district of Columbia for a for-profit quasi-public/private corporation known as US inc. which has been wholly captured by private corporate interests that seek to destroy local governments that have mostly been captured and incorporated.

The US is not a representative democracy. Disregarding charter documents showing what the US 'government' really is, case in point: Chisholm vs. Gerogia 1793; it is a corporation, ie. Charter republic. Needless to say, for-profit corporation GOP and thrh DNC select candidates, which is illegal for the EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF US CORP. Voting for this is not representative democracy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes - I read portions of those sources, and I recall we discussed this earlier. Perhaps the impasse here is that I am refering to what the US government calls itself, and you are referring to what it has been for centuries, according to earlier charters. I appreciate that the US government's self-identification could be misleading, or even false, given what we know about the earlier charters, and the means by which corporations currently controll numerous political decisions. On this latter issue, I would add that this corporate control developed with the expansion of professional lobbying in the early 1980s and thereafter. Recall that Obama planned to reduce the influence of lobbyists and career politicians, but found that he couldn't. Trump offered the same arrangement when he said he'd drain the swamp. During his presidency, the Hill became much more corrupt, especially amongs his family members. But I digress. Yes, the operation of the US Government is much like that of a corporation, and can relate to its earlier charters. Money in politics, however, has evolved at a rapid rate in the past 40 years, and resembles the corrupt governance of the late 19th century and into the early 20th century.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whatever the US government calls itself, is not WHAT IT IS. It is what it is on THEIR books. It's like Stalin calling his system a democratic utopia but on the books, it also was a corporation. The earlier charters still hold up today. There's no difference from back then to today.

Samuel Adams:

Anyone who against the republic (charter corp.) should face severe repercussions.

Association Inc, ie. congress LLC created the charter corporation known as US Inc., which is where congress resides, on the books in US Inc land. A quick search of say Rand Paul will show he is traded on teh D and B database as REP. RAND PAUL. Association Inc., was literally an offshoot of the East India Company as is the Massachusets Bay corporation. The revolutionists won, made a truce with the British, the colonists and indentured servants lost, and then they hired mercenaries to stop Shay's rebellion.

With that being said, yes, today, the US corp is still a corporation but private for-profit interests have captured it by the mammon worshiping in congress so it serves private for-profit interests almost entirely. For instance, the founders, though they sought to protect their interests and assets at teh expense of the British and colonists, they understaood that chain corporations would lead to poverty and food stamps. Look where we are now.

Recall that Obama planned to reduce the influence of lobbyists and career politicians, but found that he couldn't.

Wrong, he didn't find that he couldn't he was brought up by CIA handlers and the Chicago Chabad Lubavitch mafia to become president. He willingly bailed out wallstreet.

Trump offered the same arrangement when he said he'd drain the swamp. During his presidency, the Hill became much more corrupt, especially amongs his family members.

Obviously, he like every politician that has billions of dollars in corporate moeny and banks backing him will do the opposite of what he lies to promise every time, ad infinitum.

Yes, the operation of the US Government is much like that of a corporation, and can relate to its earlier charters. Money in politics, however, has evolved at a rapid rate in the past 40 years, and resembles the corrupt governance of the late 19th century and into the early 20th century.

The US government isn't even a government. It is a board of incorporated memebers (congress LLC) of US Inc. Real governments are local and unincorporated, which are markedly rare today. Think of teh US as a wallmart and Israel as a crappy Denny's with weapons.

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Thank you.

Is there a scholarly monograph on this subject of the US corporate charters and their applicability after the 18th century?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, not really. At least not that I know of. I'm sure there is, however. I just read charter documents. You could read Malyes, Burke, Puffendorf, Coke, Hobbes, etc., to understand how they create nationstate corporations with fictional persons.