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    [–]dontbuyanylogos 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

    there are jews who are anti zionist and a huge number of israelis who are hugely critical of the Likud and the terrorist organisation mossad. There are brave, good, honest Jews out there stop, giving the censors a good excuse to shut down debate about israel

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      [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      Zionists support a malicious exploitative apartheid shit-disturbing war-mongering surveillance state and their Machiavellian secretive ruling class technocracy. What more do you want as a clear enemy? Arguing further about what Zionism means is moot.

      Arguing about what being a Jew means has MUCH more attached baggage, stigmas, history, prejudice, etc.

      In the mainstream it's fair to say we can (still) criticize states and their leadership (except Israel) but we can't criticize race, religion, culture, etc. even remotely conflict-free. By keeping the focus on the Zionists we have a better chance of not alienating many and maybe even being effective at countering them.

      [–]Jesus[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Agreed.

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      Alienating people by denouncing the real enemy of mankind?

      You're either with them or against them.

      [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      You're binary propaganda crap doesn't fly with me.

      I'm not with the police or with the Jews.

      I despise what they do, but when you say the police did this or that and it's completely fake news I'm gonna call it out because there's MORE than enough to legitimately crap on cops about.

      Same thing with Jews. I will not defend all the shitty things they do individually, as a culture, as a religion, as a race, as a nation, or whatever. I will not lump them all together, but I will not ignore things done in their name, nor ignore trends and stereotypes that stand the test of time.

      Jews in general are certainly problematic. But they're not remotely as bad as Zionists.

      Making it black and white is boring 2D political manipulation bullshit.